i know jim tatarazuk very well for the last year or so. he is very interested and engaged in wanting to be on the task force. there are a stream of e-mails back and forth indicating that he barely read the plan and has his own opinions, and that is a good thing. mr. ferara i am not familiar with. he would be representing the area considered soma west on the other side of south van ness. we do not want any members that give us quorum problems, but on the other hand, the more citizen involvement, the better. so it is a tough call. if you do choose to forward these names for approval to the full board, i look forward to having more custodians of the plan on board, and an eager to see what their contributions would be. thank you. supervisor kim: bank appeared actually, since you are here, i need to ask a couple questions. to the vacant seat 22, that that seat was michael ferara's and that he was reappointed. but that is not the case? >> no, he would be replacing valente. that seat has been vacant for several years. i do not recall the name, bu