it was jim thorpe and babe ruth. those two names were always mentioned together. ds never learn about thorpe now. it seems that he sort of disappeared from -- from public consciousness. what's happened through the years and why did you get interested in writing about this incredible man, this incredible athlete? >> you know, he was a great athlete 110 years ago. and with the attention span of people today, you know, even michael jordan is being forgotten now, right? i think that has a large part to do with it. when i told people i was writing this book, so many of our generation, joe, said oh, i read about him in fourth grade. i wanted to write about him in a different way, both the man and the myth. i sort of consider this the third book in my trilogy of sports figures who are larker than sports. what i'm looking for in each case is not just the drama and action of athletics, but a way to use that life to illuminate american history. so jim thorpe did things unparalleled in american athletics, but also i talked about the obstacles that indigenous people faced thro

you will hear from authors talking about such topics as race, jim thorpe, clinical conspiracy, the baldle, all day long coverage. you can find the schedule on our website. if you happen to be in town, come down and say hello. thank you for joining us on about books. a program and podcast produced by c-span book tv. book tv will continue to bring you publishing news and author programs which you can always watch online at book tv.org and if you want to download this podcast, you can do so at c-span now or wherever you get your podcasts. ♪ >> did evening, everybody. -- g

you know jim thorpe. this guy had played on the tour. jim thorpe was one of my best friends when i played on the tour. okay, what would you do? i asked if your daughter came to the front door. with an introduced you to her black boyfriend and he looked at me and he said honestly, i go get my shotgun. wow, that's really honest. wow, but, you know, there are certain tests and there's certain levels and actually hiring somebody rather than just interviewing them because the rules say say you have to interview someone. it are too completely different levels and i i give dan rooney credit because he had already met his rooney rule obligation by interviewing ron rivera the year. he hired mike tomlin and tomlin just blew him away as he as he put it but the other interesting thing is ron rivera who basically grew up in california is considered a minority and robert salah is considered a minority because he's muslim and i asked brian mccarthy of the nfl i said, so when marv levy and steve gilman were coaching where they considered minorities beca

jim thorpe was one of my best friends when i played on the tour.kay, what would you do i asked if they -- came to the front door and introduce you to her black void friend? he looked amini said i'd go get my shotgun. >> wow. >> hiring somebody rather than interviewing them because they have to interview someone art to completely different levels. i give him credit because he had art he met his legal obligation by interviewing rob -- and tomlin just boom away. thent other unders -- interestig thing is ron rivera grew up in california. is considered a minority because he's and i asked brian mccarthy of the nfl i said so when leaving gillman were coaching were they considered minorities to guess they are? he said no. the bottom line is like you said we now have two coaches and one mixed race coach. >> a final question my personal favorite all your books is -- and i read that on the way to covering my first british open. why hasn't tiger woods would to an explosion or a greater wave of what offers? it's been 25 years since the masters? >> when tiger wo

asjim thorpe the sky the plate n the tour, jim thorpe was on my best friends on a plate on the tour.kay, what would you do i asked if your daughter came to the front door and introduce you to her black boyfriend? and he looked at me and said honestly i would go get my shotgun. honest. but there are certain tests and there are certain levels and actually hiring somebody rather than just interviewing them because the rule so you have to interview someone, are two completely different levels. and i gave dan rooney quite credit. he had already met his obligation by interviewing ron rivera the year he hired mike tomlin. tom and blew him away as he put it. but the other interesting thing is ron rivera basically grew up in california is considered a minority. and robert is considered a minority because he is muslim. and i asked brian mccarthy of the nfl i said so, when marv leavy and gilman were coaching, where they consider minorities because they were jewish? he said no they aret not. i don't know how they draw those lines. in the bottom line is, like you said 70% of league is black. we n

you'll hear from authors talking about such topics as race, jim thorpe, political conspiracy, the bald eagle. all day long coverage. you can find the schedule on our web site, booktv.org. and if you happen to be in town, come on down and say hi. and thanks for joining us on "about books," a program and podcast produced by c-span's booktv. now, booktv will continue to bring you publishing news and author programs which you can always watch online at booktv.org, and if you want to download this podcast, you can do so at c-span now or wherever you get your podcasts. ♪ .. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> and you've been watching booktv, every sunday on c-span2 watch nonfiction authors discuss their books. television for serious readers. and watch them all online any time@booktv.org. you can also find us on twitter, facebook and youtube at booktv. >> host: thank you so much for taking the time to do this interview. i wonderit if we could just stat itre really broad because your book obviously is about pressing topic of the day, inflation. andt you define inflation low differently in the book that it is tradition

she absorbed carbon county, jim thorpe, pennsylvania, which is a 2:1 trump county.she had run for reelection in 2020 under the new lines, she probably would have lost against lisa schaller. it is possible both will lose this fall, what i think wild is in a little more trouble. host: to the garden state, catherine in west orange, democrat. good morning. catherine, you with us? i think catherine is chatting with somebody else. jerry in inglewood, california. good morning. you are next. caller: good morning. host: go ahead, sir. caller: thanks for taking my call. i had a couple of questions for your guest. i was wondering, yes, i'm here. host: go ahead, what are your questions? caller: my first question is, do you think house democrats are going to lose more seats than the historical average for the president's first midterm? and the second one, what do you think are the most affirmed redactors in terms of outcomes for this midterm? thank you. guest: both great questions. the historical average is in a post-world war ii era, the president's party has lost 26 how seats