what happened with jim traficant? there was not a trial? >> no, that's an interesting dynamic and what will be tested here. in jim traficant's case he was accused of all sorts of criminal wrongdoing and the fbi investigated him and he was convicted and sent to jail. del have a kind of ethics trial but all that eentially was done is the transcript and record of his criminal case was entered into the house committee. that's not really what's going to happen here. in this instance, the committee does not have the fbi or the justice department to give them a road map to the rangel case or the waters case. they're going to have too the investigating and the lawyering on their own. they haven't done that as the story said, since 1987. >> so when people see jim traficant went to jail, he didn't go to jail on the ethics charges but the charges by the just department? >> correct. >> this process does not send people to jail. this house ethics process at worst can lead up to a vote to expel someone from congress but the only way you send someone to j

the board on monday approved more than 30 disputed signature to find jim traficant to make november ballot in ohio's 17th district. he represented the youngstown area for nearly two decades before the 2002 conviction for corruption. he's running as an independent. murfreesboro, tennessee, john, independent line. caller: from what i understand, i guess in making -- correct me if i'm wrong on it -- the state department will be running the majority of the -- i guess our support there. at the same time it looks like the former blackwater have settled their disputes with the government. does that mean that our tax dollars will turn back around and pay the new blackwater company to be the support of iraq? and if it is, i think that's a little bit of a conflict. i'd like to hear some response from that. host: this from "the new york times," further inquiry, says the office of congressional ethics has found enough evidence for wrongdoing to recommend further investigation of three house members who held fundraising events just days before they voted on financial regulatory legislation last year. i

what happened with jim traficant? there was not a trial?, that's an interesting dynamic and what will be tested here. in jim traficant's case he was accused of all sorts of criminal wrongdoing and the fbi investigated him and he was convicted and sent to jail. del have a kind of ethics trial but all that essentially was done is the transcript and record of his criminal case was entered into the house coittee. that's not really what's going to happen here. in this instance, the committee does not have the fbi orhe justice department to give them a road map to the rangel case or the waters case. they're going to have to do the investigating and the lawyering on their own. they haven't done that as the story said, since 1987. >> so when people see jim traficant went to jail, he didn't go to jail on the ethics charges but the charges by the just department? >> correct. >> this process does not send people to jail. this house ethics process at worst can lead up to a vote to expel someone from congress but the only way you send someone to jail in