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joining us today to talk about his book while he took the -- jim wallace, good morning two. .

caller: the reverend jim -- guest: the reverend jim wallace is our guest. four evangelical voters, (202) 748-8001 for all others. this is catherine out of ohio. caller: merry christmas. i am a born-again christian. i have a few bones to pick with trump. grabs women by the you who. he is a hormone group. he is an adulterer. he is a liar. he imprisons brown babies only because they are brown. woman, these are things that christians are supposed to stand against. is, how doesor you trump -- who has had many people around them who have been of great character -- how does he totally corrupt everybody that comes around? he is a man that does not believe in constitutional law. he does not believe in rule of law int does not believe in a higher moral standard. this is the question that i hear on the road all the time. how can these evangelical christians support donald trump when he does all of that --. . guest: this is where the crack in the wall is occurring. the curtain is being torn here because christians -- were born-again, evangelical, are saying we know lon

to help answer that question i'm joined by reverend jim wallace, author of the book christ in crisis,t by christianity today's support for impeachment. i like your piece and you're a fantastic writer. what do you see as the significance of christianity today publishing this? >> i think this was a huge deal. i was stunned when i saw this appear online on thursday. and it's not so much that anyone who's reading christianity today would be surprised this is what the editors thought, but it was really surprising to see them put it so forthrightly and so clearly in print. i think one of the most important things about this is that it opens up space for the significant probably minority, but a significant share of evangelicals who know that there is something, you know, profoundly uniquely wrong with this presidency and who haven't -- you know when they looked around to see who are the loudest evangelicals sharing their voices, their opinions on trump right now, it's not institutional like christianity today, not even some of the leaders who were opposed to trump during the primary. these a

caller: the reverend jim -- guest: the reverend jim wallace is our guest.r evangelical voters, (202) 748-8001 for all others. this is catherine out of ohio. caller: merry christmas. i am a born-again christian. i have a few bones to pick with trump. grabs women by the you who. he is a hormone group. he is an adulterer. he is a liar. he imprisons brown babies only because they are brown. woman, these are things that christians are supposed to stand against. is, how doesor you trump -- who has had many people around them who have been of great character -- how does he totally corrupt everybody that comes around? he is a man that does not believe in constitutional law. he does not believe in rule of law int does not believe in a higher moral standard. this is the question that i hear on the road all the time. how can these evangelical christians support donald trump when he does all of that --. . guest: this is where the crack in the wall is occurring. the curtain is being torn here because christians -- were born-again, evangelical, are saying we know longer

>> c-span's "washington journal" with policy issuing that impact you as part of author's week, jim wallace will talk about "christ in crisis." and the heritage foundation teven moore co-author of "trump-anomics" discusses the 2020 election. be sure to watch washington journal tuesday morning. join the discussion. and be sure to watch author's week all this week starting at :00 a.m. here's a look at some of our featured programming this holiday week on c-span. starting christmas eve at 8:00, the veil symposium on religious freedom. then at 9:30 watch the white house festivities surrounding the christmas tree. and view this year's white house decorations with melania ump and a look at previous deck races with hillary clinton and michelle obama. a discussion with peter teal at the manhattan institute. and hillsdale college on journalism and fake news at the liberty forum. on thursday, at 5:45 p.m. eastern, a joint economic hearing on the high cost of raising a family. then at 9:10 p.m. constitutional it will gator justin pierson talks about occupational licensing requirements at the federal s

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coming up tuesday morning, as part of others week, jim wallace christlk about his book, in crisis, and stephen moore discusses the trump administration's economic record on the 2020 election. be sure to watch washington journal, live at 7:00 eastern tuesday morning. join the discussion and be sure to watch all this week starting at 8:00 a.m. c-span,p tonight on frank part entertainment editor on the news media. and campaign 2020 coverage continues with three events featuring democratic presidential candidates. tom steyer in manchester, new biden withand joe tom vilsack in cary, iowa. the leading opinion makers across the country. jerome hudson from jacksonville, florida, and his new book "50 things they don't want you to know." caller: it is -- guest:

. >> the religious left that jim wallace loved. we've got iowa. before iowa, we've got football.ay you? >> the fact of the matter, i've been working very hard this week. football, the final week of the regular season. and i just want to go through a few different playoff scenarios. so the new orleans saints, our senior producer loves the new orleans saints. >> i love the saints and green bay. >> what's the chance they can clinch a first round bye? look at the 51% probability. they could win. green bay could lose or tie. they could win. san fran could lose or tie. they could lie. green bay would have to lose. they could tie and san fran would have to lose or san fran loses and green bay wins or a tie. >> you have that much fun? >> any other possible teams that are playing? >> so another one of my favorite. this is my favorite of all of them. a 7% probability that the oakland raiders who are only 7-8 can clinch a playoff spot. they have to win and then they need this whole parlay. pittsburgh has to lose. tennessee has to lose. indianapolis has to win. and then either chicago, detro

. >> reverend jim wallace and ruth graham, thank you both for joining us. the rachel maddow show starts right now. good evening, rachel. >> good evening, chris. have a spectacular weekend as we head into the holidays. i know you're looking forward to splitting wood with your family as am i. >>> thanks to you at home for joining us this hour as well. very happy to have you with us. i do hope you have a great holiday season looking ahead, it is the friday before christmas. that should mean that we no longer feel like we're right in the middle of a news cycle, right, but the news gods scoff at such niceties these days. they care not for our holidays. i mean everything's got to happen some time, right? why not now? it was only two days ago nancy pelosi impeached donald trump. she used the gavel to note that the articles of impeachment against president trump had passed. it was two days ago. today she invited him to deliver the state of the union address, which is awkward timing, but you know what, it's also time for it. and while it is not unimaginable there mi

coming up tuesday morning, as art of author's week, sojourners founder jim wallace christlk about his book, in crisis. trump-a-nomics. be sure to wash c-span washington journal. join the discussion and be sure watch all this week starting at 8:00 a.m. >> here's a look at some of our eatured programming this holiday week on c-span. starting christmas eve, at 8:00 eastern, the symposium on religious freedom. the at 9:30, watch festivities surrounding the white house christmas tree. on christmas day, at 10:00 a.m. view this year's white house decorations with first plus a look trump back at previous decorations by former first lady hillary bush and michelle obama. at 12:30 eastern a discussion global technology issues with peter teal at the manhattan nstitute, and at 8:00 p.m. eastern, journalism director jon miller, on the history of thenalism and fake news, at liberty forum. n thursday, at 5:45 p.m. eastern a joint economic committee hearing on the high cost of raising a family. 9:10 p.m., constitutional pearson talks in about occupational licensing requirements at the federalist

senior minister at middle collegiate church and reverend jim wallace, founder of sojourners in christreverend, start with you. donald trump had to admit that his charity was being abused and a charity supposed to be giving money to things like children with cancer but using it as a slush fund. >> right. >> that happened, went away. a story people don't toke about. h talk about anymore. and the university, took their money. why now do we see one christian magazine trigger to say this is finally enough? >> a mass of evidence saying this is a criminally corrupt person. that donald trump is not fit for office and isn't really a christian person. i'm not talking about judging something like harshly. i'm talking basic, christian stuff. he's a liar. he's a cheat. he defaults on his bills, misuses women and bracked about it. i think finally part of his base has come to understand, joy, that they can be sort of pro-guns. they can be anti-abortion, and they can be pro-life, but they can be anti-trump, because he actually isn't the savior that they wanted to pretend he was. >> and looking at thi

. >> martha: another question i would have for jim comey, chris wallace is going to do a great interview. he will speak with him this weekend, the whole question of president trump as the subject of their investigation because one of the things we have spoken a lot about is the fact that the president was never given a heads up, not given briefing. the fbi says we did but it was really general. they weren't telling him that they were actually concerned that there is people in the campaign that might be a problem. now they are saying the reason we didn't tell candidate trump when we briefed him was because essentially we thought he was the subject of the investigation. james comey told him three times he was not the subject of the investigation. >> only went to the doj and asked that very question, you give a defensive reef into candidate clinton. did you give a defensive briefing to candidate trump? the fsx donation was yes we gave one to candidate trump because the target of the investigation, in this case, michael flynn was sitting right beside him, we couldn't give him the exhaustive

also tonight, kim strassel analyzes the jim comey-chris wallace interview on sunday. news coming of a further drawdown of the troops in afghanistan. senator tom cotton is here to weigh in on that. joining him is retired army captain jason church who lost both of his legs in combat serving in afghanistan. now he wants to be a member of congress from wisconsin. also tonight, former s.n.l. star joe piscapo is joining us and he says that "saturday night live" is getting funny again. there is a reason for that. he will esplain that comin comi- explain that coming up. first, as the top story, the house readies for impeachment. mark meadows member of the house oversight committee joining us this evening. thank you very much. it's great to have you with us. >> great to be with you, thanks. >> martha: so let's start with the reason for the urgency, which you heard from chairman schiff and from chairman nadler. that's why it has to happen quickly. the president is going to do it again, bring in a foreign government to mess with the elections. >> the fact of the matter is the pr

>> jim comey told chris wallace he did not read the applications that he signed.re of director of fbi, and court assumes he signed it he mist have read it, interrogated lawyers and fbi and agents, and those who prepared it. nobody double checked anyone else, the true target, was the guy run for president of the u.s. u.s.u.s., if they can be ty with something that high profile, you can imagine how sloppy they are. david: judge andrew napolitano thank you so much. >> thank you. >> before we head to break, what is coming up on "evening edit" with elizabeth macdonald. >> senator elizabeth warren appearing to backtrack, from her all in government takeover plan to take over health care. she is not talking about that a quote often choice, this after she lost half her national support, we have a disturbing new scandal, doing potentially significant damage to bloomberg's campaign, disparaging jokes about women. and more of what have you been debating, fisa court slamming james comey and fbi team under him, ordering fbi to come up with a reformed plan. in less than a month.

. >> bret: i want to look at jim comey's interview with chris wallace. >> i think the notion that fisansense. >> i was overconfident at the procedures that the fbi injustice had built over 20 years. i thought they were robust enough. it's incredibly hard to get a fisa. there was sloppiness. 17 things that should have been in the applications were discussed characterized differently. >> this guy. i can't with this guy anymore. >> bret: i can't with this guy. >>> the sportcoat is perfect. >> bret: he came out hunting and fishing. >> oh, poor him? i care too much. i trusted too much. one is it enough with him and what does he retreat from the stage and say, i blew it. it was not successful. see you later. >> bret: the mistakes, he kept on coming back to mistakes. all 17 of these major things including one where a lawyer adjusts an email to the opposite, going against president trump and carter page. every one of them. >> won this report came out james comey put an op-ed out saying he had been vindicated. the facts are anything but that. i'd only is he not vindicated, there is a investigat

i want to get your thought on this jim comey interview that chris wallace conducted with him on sundayegard to the fisa process and with regard to whether or not these were errors, mistakes, or something more, watch this. >> chris: given the repeat the error fisa process does attorney general barr have a point. >> he does not have a factual basis attorney general of the united states that agents acted in bad faith. the facts just aren't there. full stop that doesn't make it any less consequential or any less important but that's irresponsible statement. >> martha: he said that was irresponsible statement. what do you say? >> he has lost his mind. how many of these close calls went in favor of president trump? >> martha: none. >> when they changed the email, was it to help trump or hurt him? when they put the dossier material in was it to help trump or hurt him? when they put the dnc funded fusion gps research material was that to help trump or hurt him. everything that happened was done to hurt donald trump. so, i'm -- look, this is the same jim comey we thought it was nonsense we were

his first interview since the horowitz report became public, former fbi director jim comey spoke with msnbc's nicolle wallace and argued that after years of smears by the president, the report found nothing. >> it was all made up. two years of sitting silently at the fbi while you're lied about, and finally the truth is out. it was lies. there was no treason. there was no conspiracy. there was no tapping of trump's wires. there was no putting informants in the campaign. it was all nonsense. >> as the mueller report was reaching its conclusion, there was a lot of pointing to horowitz on conservative media, which i like to keep an eye on, and he was held up as, you know, don't look at the mueller report, the one i really want to see is the horowitz report. if durham doesn't come up with the kinds of conclusions that they're looking for, what do you think happens next? >> i don't know. i mean with the horowitz report, they're not only moving the goal post, they're moving the stadium and now focus on durham and when that doesn't produce what they want, they will focus on something else. it won't end until he is

jim comey this weekend? it was incredible to see. chris wallace did a great job with jim comey on sunday. looked at monday morning futures, you had the truth tellers, what i call them, devin nunes and john ratcliffe and george papadopoulos and trey gowdy to tell us what happened in 2016 and you had jim comey with chris wall lases, continuing this -- wallace, continuing this, did he think anybody was going -- he kept going back, remember what was happening on this channel, people were saying i was going to go to jail. i was going what, that's not an answer to the wrong-doing that occurred by deciding not to put things forth to the fisa court when you want to get a warrant to spy on somebody. >> i think his rhetoric will be different after the durham report comes out. maria: i think so too. dagen: i always look at him why was he running the fbi in the first place. every time i -- i asked so many people this, why did they keep him on. we knew who he was. you knew exactly -- even before he became the fbi director under president obama, this is who he is. he is a self-promoter and he has a --

jim comey came out after your last interview. he responded t to the eiji horowitz report and spoke out about that. and he spoke with chris wallaceand he said that the 17 mistakes and omissions that were uncovered in the fisa process were contributed to sloppiness, largely. what you say to that? >> i think there are some of them that are hard to square with the idea that these were just mistakes and sloppiness. i have said that a number of these episodes leave open the possibility of inferring bad faith or improper motive, but i hasten to add that as i have said all along, i have reached no determination on that, or do i think a final determination on that is appropriate until all of the evidence is in. horowitz himself, and his testimony summed it up. which is that this could be on the one hand at the very least go some confidence. on the other hand it could also be improper motive. and he was not in the position to make that call. that's why we have u.s. attorney john durham looking into this. >> martha: i want to ask you more about that in a moment. are you surprised that james comey is so convinced himself that all of this wa

jim? "james. >> jeanne: what is astounding as there are 17 egregious violations, this is not just a procedural error so when you listen to chris wallace'sxcellent interview, he made it seem as if this was some some sort of procedural error. to survey an american citizen who was working with the cia, who should never have been surveyed and who deserves an apology and i should just say, i saw on twitter before that our very own matt is -- people are trying to recruit him to take over the directorship of the cia next. >> harris: i wondered why you were trending. really quickly because you said when we were in a sound bite or maybe even in a break, forgive me because that conversation our audience didn't hear but i wanted you to be able to tell them what you were saying from the perspective of james comey doing this interview. you felt like he maybe didn't anticipate some of the things that were asked. >> it's astounding to me, it's as if he did not read the report thoroughly or at all and i thought the interview showed that. >> kennedy: that's what i thought after his op-ed. if they can included in that warrant application that carter page

director jim comey admitted that he was, quote, wrong on how the bureau kw used the foreign intelligence surveillance act in the russia investigation. in an interview just yesterday with chris wallacethe former fbi director was pressed to explain inspector general michael horowitz's report on fbi process, and here's what comey had to say. >> 17 significant errors in the fisa process, and you say that it was handled in a thoughtful and appropriate way? >> yeah, he's right. i was wrong. i was over confident in the procedures that the fbi and justice had built over 20 years. i thought they were robust enough. it's incredibly hard to get a fi fisa. i was over confident in those. there was real sloppiness, 17 things that should have been in the applications or at least discussed and characterized differently. it was not acceptable, so he's right, i was wrong. >> so of course the president tweeting in response to that interview in part this, so now comey's admitting he was wrong, but he's only doing so because he got caught red handed. he was actually caught a long time ago. so what are the consequences for his unlawful conduct? could it be years in jail? president trump had fired comey

wallace i have to say really challenged comey. david, do you think comey's interview helped or hurt the credibility of the fbi today? >> well, i think it helped the credibility of jim and i do think it helped the fbi. we haven't heard anybody say that and as long as i can remember it's always somebody else who's making mistakes, always somebody else who's screwed up. i join bill in saying i think he did the right thing, and there it is. if this happened on such a sensitive issue it really raises questions about the competence of some of these people in the fbi on other issues on other fisa requests and i think that has to be turowly explored upon by the justice department and in a way not intended to throw dirt on comey or anybody else. but i think the critical thing to still remember to come back to is what they found after a thorough investigation was it was not politically motivated, not a witch hunt and it was an honest effect to figure out what's going on here and on that they were plenty plainspoken. the intelligence of the institutions of this government unlike the white house still insists that we face major, major threats from the russians and from others