walton mountain. >> no, not those. >> john boy. >> john boy, jim boy. >> right?w? that always got me. >> that's gross. >> and the father, big drinker. he was. anyw anyway. >> you're welcome. >> thank you. >> thank you. >>> barclays chairman marcus agius has resigned just a few days after the british bank agreed to pay more than $450 million in fines for its role in fixing interest rate prices. joining us now from washington, gary gensler, chairman of the cftc. my biggest question, gary, was did he really say the buck stops here? and why didn't he say the pound stops here? >> well, i think most likely because we're talking about u.s. dollar libor -- >> that's what liesman said. >> -- in the american public. >> that's exactly what liesman said. i still think as a brit that the whole expression should be changed to the pound stops here. tell us, can you summarize for our viewers exactly what was going on, gary, and how serious this is? >> this is very serious. the american public and our markets depend on reliable and honest -- and i'll repeat, honest benchmark rate