my job was to be the easy peasy, nice and easy person who would describe what bernie or martin or jim webbould say, so i tried -- look, no one put words in my mouth, but you are on tv and in many ways i thought of myself as an actress. i had to play the part. i could play this part, i could play that part. but i used my own words, but i was an actress playing the various roles that i was often assigned to do when i was called to be on television. brian: page 72, explain this one. "over lunch, charlie said i should pick this up with robbie, but i knew that would not be a good conversation. you know, you cannot leave me in a room with a bunch of smartass white boys for 10 minutes before it all starts to go wrong." explain please. donna: oh god. well, here i am. i have worked in politics all my life. i probably have more political experience than most because i started so early, and i had to essentially climb every ladder, and i did it twice. when i would go to robby and his "band of brothers," there was never a woman in the room. there was a woman outside the room, but in the room i was the

jim webb gets some credit because his resonated at a time when you were -- but you were not popular at the time, so maybe anyone would have resonated. >> i agree with that. i think the responses are yesterday's way of doing business and we don't need them any more. you don't need the response. i think most of the response will be a social media response. >> there is several responlss tonight. >> i think it is worth rethinking the way they are put together. it is too often they look like watered down versions of the state of the union. you would capitalize on the outsider advantages. and it should be delivered somewhere other than washington, outside of a cheering crowd. >> but i remember they tried this against bill clinton, it has been tried and it us looks -- you always watch it and think go on, but it looks like it's scene, sfliegt. >> yeah, if it was a rally and there was cheering crowds, it would have a different field. >>. >> i like the state of the union address to be the article one, two, and three of the constitution coming together. and words can be spoken -- >> you want john

become the person who could speak on behalf of martin o'malley, bernie sanders, lincoln chafee, or jim webb because they had a clinton person on, someone who had threats and attacks, and i was trying to keep my head above the water. i had to remain chair. brian: here's is what i was getting at that i want to read back to you. this is on page 26. "when the campaign's communications director salt the remarks, she got angry quick. jennifer wanted to know who approved the change in the campaign schedule because she certainly had not. jennifer glowered at me, then the staff, then jumped up and walked out, slamming the door behind her. i was thinking, if that bitch ever does anything like that to me again, i'm gonna walk." how long did you think about that before you put it in the book? donna: that was my immediate reaction. i am giving up everything i needed to give up because i wanted no conflicts in my schedule, no conflicts in my personal or professional life. i gave up everything. i took my leave from cnn. i stopped my weekly column. the only thing i kept on my schedule was my students, my c

jim mcdougal's failed madison guaranty savings and loan. >> i don't think bernie nussbaum thought for a minute he was doing anything wrong. >> 10 days later came another resignation, associate attorney general webbmer little rock law partner of hillary clinton. >> it became known that he had engaged in billing fraud while he was at the rose law firm. >> he had been filing false expense accounts, which basically defrauded his partners, but also his clients. >> there are no words capable of fully conveying to you my deep respect and admiration for webb hubbell or how sad this event makes me. >> his resignation is a personal blow to the president, and it overshadows white house attempts to refocus public attention on his agenda. >> he strongly feels that he will be vindicated, but it's gonna take some time for him to do it and that he shouldn't be working at a public job while he's doing that. and i think that's right. >> capitol hill republicans are pressing ahead with watergate-style public hearings. >> if you ever needed proof that we need hearings, that we need some sense of what's going on with the clinton administration, then this latest resignation should be more than enough proof. >> the re