. >> host: to fly to fly -- go to the first debate ibis there jimmy baker with there and they had pumped him full of information and facts and figures. had a need to show how smart you are. he wasn't in his personality did not come through. >> guest: isn't that what we write? that is exactly what we wrote. >> host: you suggested he was not affected his game he did not have the and permission he was having a bad day and it showed. >> guest: i have to respectfully disagree period about the part of roger ailes he says the cable and your overwhelming demand with facts and figures he was becoming befuddles you had to strip away the heart of the matter all that is in the book. >> host: but you use this as one of the examples to show the president faltering that it was moving in. >> guest: let's say a he was not comfortable to absorb a tremendous amount of information to spit it back. that was not his strong suit. >> host: and never was the one before the assassination attempt he could have done that a lot better than after. >> this is to he was never a policy wonk and not because he couldn't b

he tried to get jimmy baker in and he came back to late i think. you are all great for coming. i will hang around and sign some books but if you would like please tell your friends i'm just trying to get george herbert walker bush of the united states the credits but he deserves and i think history will give him. thank you. [applause] >> thank you everybody for coming we will be moving now to the signing table over by the door past the register if you would like to chat with him a little bit more he will be over there please bring your books and i see most of you have them already. if you don't we have some of the register. thank you for coming. next on booktv after words program catherine talks about recent findings on poverty in the united states into reports of a growing number of american families surviving on virtually no income. she's interviewed by the representative democrat of wisconsin. >> host: hello, professor. it's so good to be here with you to discuss your book to dollars a day living on almost nothing in america co-authored by h. lewis schaefer with me start by

howard baker joined with democratic president jimmy carter.hose were the days when the saying went politics ended at the water's edge. there was a sense as a nation we had to think about the national interest, not our narrow political interests when something very important like nuclear weapons was on the table. even though i'm gratified that this deal is going to go through, i'm worried about the political climate in which this debate is taking place. with just a few changes in the composition of the senate or with a certain kind of president we could be very irrational foreign policy climate. >> thank you for joining us. appreciate it. >>> with glenn beck tells donald trump to grow up. >>> and bernie sanders surge in the polls continues. a new poll has a shocking result for hillary clinton and ben carson. >>> later, your government at work is one way of watching scott cooper's brilliant new movie starring john think depp as whitey bull garr, the fbi informer. scott cooper will join us later. >> so i should go now? >> yeah, you should go now.