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no one thought it was going to be jimmy carter. he thoughts jackson or maybe humphrey or muskie, pretty much anyone over carter but he looked past as chairman of the dnc and he really saw it as his mission to keep his electric together. he didn't care who the nominee was and they didn't care what they stood for. there was criticism leveled at him throughout his career that he was not an ideologue but all he cared about was getting a democrat in the white house and he really did not care who it was. it turned out to be jimmy carter and they went on to be great friends. jimmy carter who i don't think is necessarily known for his sense of humor really loved bob, grew to love bob and i interviewed him. he said they grew as close as two brothers. and bob could make him laugh. bob would always insult him when he introduced him because that is how bob loved you. he would make fun of him for -- and there were a lot of ways the bob made front of jimmy carter. and then carter appointed him special trade representative. as t.r. at the time and
no one thought it was going to be jimmy carter. he thoughts jackson or maybe humphrey or muskie, pretty much anyone over carter but he looked past as chairman of the dnc and he really saw it as his mission to keep his electric together. he didn't care who the nominee was and they didn't care what they stood for. there was criticism leveled at him throughout his career that he was not an ideologue but all he cared about was getting a democrat in the white house and he really did not care who it...
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we needed someone who wasn't a moderate to go against jimmy carter. we needed a bold, disimpghtive conservative. everyone said ronald reagan was too conservative. he was exactly what we needed. also across the world, we had a margaret thatcher, the iron lady who brought about conservative policies and helped to turn around england's economy. i think we need an american margaret thatcher, an american iron lady. i am presenting myself as that candidate to be a very strong, resolute woman who will stand up for our country. i know exactly what needs to be done. i will do it. i will repeal obamacare. i will repeal dodd/frank and put in place a pro-growth tax code. as a former tax lawyer, i know exactly what to do with that. i am looking forward to being america's next, hopefully, margaret thatcher. >> monica: there are a lot of negative ads, newt hitting mitt and ron paul mitt hitting everybody, apparently. have you focused on running a very positive campaign and very strong in the debate. you have hit romny and gingrich on policy. but your whole campaign
we needed someone who wasn't a moderate to go against jimmy carter. we needed a bold, disimpghtive conservative. everyone said ronald reagan was too conservative. he was exactly what we needed. also across the world, we had a margaret thatcher, the iron lady who brought about conservative policies and helped to turn around england's economy. i think we need an american margaret thatcher, an american iron lady. i am presenting myself as that candidate to be a very strong, resolute woman who will...
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he didn't think it was going to be jimmy carter. nobody thought it was going to be jimmy carter. he preferred scoop jackson or pretty much anyone over carter that he looked past that as the chairman of the dnc and he saw it as his mission to keep his electorate to get her and he didn't care who the nominee was or who they stood for and how was a criticism leveled at him for his career he was not an ideologue but all he cared about was getting a democrat in the white house and he didn't care who it was and it turned out to be jimmy carter and they went on to become great friends. jimmy carter who was don't think it's necessarily known for his sense of humor really grew to love bob and i interviewed him and he said they grew as close as his two brothers in bob would always insult him because that's how you knew bob loved you and he would make fun of them for his pains begin to shorter there's a lot of ways they could make fun of carter and he used all of them. then carter appointed him special trade representative. st are a tiny than currently that is the opposite united states trad
he didn't think it was going to be jimmy carter. nobody thought it was going to be jimmy carter. he preferred scoop jackson or pretty much anyone over carter that he looked past that as the chairman of the dnc and he saw it as his mission to keep his electorate to get her and he didn't care who the nominee was or who they stood for and how was a criticism leveled at him for his career he was not an ideologue but all he cared about was getting a democrat in the white house and he didn't care who...
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there's a lot of weight can make fun of jimmy carter. and he used all of them. and then carter appointed him special trade representative. s. t. r. at time and currently that is the opposite of the united states trade representative. he changed the title and ron curt is that ustr. and bob came in in a very weak cabinet position at the cabinet post. but he really used as underdogs add this to his advantage. he became known as someone who reach across the aisle and was fine with republicans and democrats. for someone who started is karin washington, that would seem surprising. but i think what helped him with the democratic art itself is so split. he was almost working across and i already. any party but as george wallace, who ran for president many times and barbara jordan, black congresswoman and the same party. and he was very from the oath of them. anyone can do that can work across the aisle in congress for republicans and democrats and carter saw that. carter saw what he'd done is chairman chairman of the dnc. and so come he also thought he could do that abro
there's a lot of weight can make fun of jimmy carter. and he used all of them. and then carter appointed him special trade representative. s. t. r. at time and currently that is the opposite of the united states trade representative. he changed the title and ron curt is that ustr. and bob came in in a very weak cabinet position at the cabinet post. but he really used as underdogs add this to his advantage. he became known as someone who reach across the aisle and was fine with republicans and...
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jimmy carter did something you didn't.to the new ruler of north korea. why are you guys differing on this? >> we have differed rather dramatically in the past. look, north korea has killed 200,000 people under the worst conditions you can ever imagine, starvation. the average north korean is three inches shorter than the average south korean. the nuclear weapons, the provocations with south korea. this is a gulag and the chinese are the country that control it and it's time the chinese acted in a mature fashion and help bring about change that is so badly needed. this is a very terrible rogue regime and george bush was right when he called on the axis of evil. >> brian: let's talk about the iraqi troop withdrawal. series of explosions over the last 24 hours and an issue of a warrant for arrest for the vice president who is sunni and a call for the kurdish to give him up by the leader. this thing seems to be falling apart within 48 hours of our exit! >> day before yesterday, the president said iraq was strong, stable, and d
jimmy carter did something you didn't.to the new ruler of north korea. why are you guys differing on this? >> we have differed rather dramatically in the past. look, north korea has killed 200,000 people under the worst conditions you can ever imagine, starvation. the average north korean is three inches shorter than the average south korean. the nuclear weapons, the provocations with south korea. this is a gulag and the chinese are the country that control it and it's time the chinese...
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the lighting ceremony dates back to 1979, when a president jimmy carter -- when jimmy carter was presidentstudents who have been living on a cruise ship the past few months are back on land. the sea voyager has pulled out, minus the students. they will be back in their residence halls and next month. college officials tell us the dorms are clear of mold. the cost was $20,000 a day, about what the school would have paid for hotels, which were just too far from campus. >> they just had a little luxury cruise, did they not? tonight, a new report shows more americans are dying from drug overdoses and car accidents. that is a staggering statistic -- more are dying from drug overdoses than car accidents. painkillers such as morphine were involved in nearly half of those deaths. they say this coincides with a significant spike in prescription drug abuse. so who is most at risk for a drug poisoning? men and white adults. you are coughing and sneezing, but you go to work anyway, just like a good employee. we have more on a cold and flu and again -- on cold and flu at ticket -- flu etiquette. she sa
the lighting ceremony dates back to 1979, when a president jimmy carter -- when jimmy carter was presidentstudents who have been living on a cruise ship the past few months are back on land. the sea voyager has pulled out, minus the students. they will be back in their residence halls and next month. college officials tell us the dorms are clear of mold. the cost was $20,000 a day, about what the school would have paid for hotels, which were just too far from campus. >> they just had a...
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jimmy carter visited cuba and hung out with recall castro. who wouldn't want to do that. n front of the media what did carter say he found beautiful in cuba the presidential palace, cigar, fidel's beard? what did carter find beautiful? cards up. cards up. >> you have a beautiful palace. >> spend more time with your guests. >> he used to spend more time with his guests until executed them. you both got that wrong. that means mckellum wins by 4. >> donald trump and spongebob square pants share the stage. it's the only cold and flu brand that won't raise your blood pressure. coricidin hbp. powerful cold medicine with a heart. helps defends against occasional constipation, diarrhea, gas and bloating. with the strains of good bacteria to help balance your colon. you had me at "probiotic." [ female announcer ] phillips' colon health. >> donald trump is going well in the gop polls. a lot of conservatives think might be bad for the party. they compared him to what left wing figure, michael moore, howard dean, c allen grace, dal sharpton. which one did he compare him to. >> then th
jimmy carter visited cuba and hung out with recall castro. who wouldn't want to do that. n front of the media what did carter say he found beautiful in cuba the presidential palace, cigar, fidel's beard? what did carter find beautiful? cards up. cards up. >> you have a beautiful palace. >> spend more time with your guests. >> he used to spend more time with his guests until executed them. you both got that wrong. that means mckellum wins by 4. >> donald trump and...
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. >> jimmy carter.t like jimmy carter stormed in victory even though undecided was ahead of him in caucuses. he was number one amongst candidates in 1976. the campaign in iowa. one of them is live there. for months. santorum has been there more than anybody else. been to all 99 counties. you can build up support that way. and he is also conservative. he can win a lot of conservative votes. not just the social conservatives but others as well. follow jimmy carter strategy and it seems to be working for him. it doesn't mean he will win, though. >> another story, perry's numbers are creeping up. the way his campaign has cycled so rapidly from one candidate to another, i'd be tempted to say santorum peaked too early. he peaked on thursday. whereas rick perry could be the one who peaks on monday night. his numbers are creeping up. i think it will be interesting to see who ends up as the third. i think it would propel either of them to new hampshire. >> jim: we are only 30 second left, and a lot of people hav
. >> jimmy carter.t like jimmy carter stormed in victory even though undecided was ahead of him in caucuses. he was number one amongst candidates in 1976. the campaign in iowa. one of them is live there. for months. santorum has been there more than anybody else. been to all 99 counties. you can build up support that way. and he is also conservative. he can win a lot of conservative votes. not just the social conservatives but others as well. follow jimmy carter strategy and it seems to...
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it i will tell you, i watched jimmy carter and i watched ronald reagan with the prisoners.as still president, they would still be there. >> bob: if you were president when you invade it to get it back? >> i tell you, what you might drop a missile on it or something. you may do something. look, it's really serious. they have all of our technology. it took them 20 years to develop this thing. they have all of our technology. they are giving it now to the chinese. these are serious enemies of ours. unbelievable what is going on. the way he was spoken to and the way obama said give it back. i have to agree with eric. it was horrible. almost like begging. >> bob: can i ask a final question? after the debate last night, everybody here, let me ask you here, do you not think that the republicans could have better candidates than what they've got? >> eric: yeah, he is on the fine. >> bob: fine. seriously. do you not think the people are remorseful and excited not to run if they look at the people. >> i think a couple of pretty good to be honest. i won't mention who, because you will
it i will tell you, i watched jimmy carter and i watched ronald reagan with the prisoners.as still president, they would still be there. >> bob: if you were president when you invade it to get it back? >> i tell you, what you might drop a missile on it or something. you may do something. look, it's really serious. they have all of our technology. it took them 20 years to develop this thing. they have all of our technology. they are giving it now to the chinese. these are serious...
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jimmy carter. i want to make a point about the speech.hat obama is making the other presidents. that's a joke. you know how eskimos has 1,000 words for snow? president obama has thousand words for warfare. fair share, balanced approach, opportunity, 56-minute sugarcoated speech on class warfare. >> andrea: economic fairness. that is what roosevelt advocated for. a bad comparison because rowvelt lost in 1912 called demagogue much like obama. >> bob: we need a right wing guy named -- >> dana: the "new york times" after the morning of teddy rosenvelt nationalism was called the new socialism. >> bob: can i use the research here to quote you? ronald reagan, accused ronald reagan offing a socialist, engaging in class warfare because he thought everybody should do their fair share. compare himself to reagan? is that comparing himself to reagan? >> eric: there is something different between teddy roosevelt and the obama comparison. right now, half the country doesn't pay taxes. the other half pays insane rates. back then, there was no federal --
jimmy carter. i want to make a point about the speech.hat obama is making the other presidents. that's a joke. you know how eskimos has 1,000 words for snow? president obama has thousand words for warfare. fair share, balanced approach, opportunity, 56-minute sugarcoated speech on class warfare. >> andrea: economic fairness. that is what roosevelt advocated for. a bad comparison because rowvelt lost in 1912 called demagogue much like obama. >> bob: we need a right wing guy named --...
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jimmy carter visited cuba and hung out with recall castro. who wouldn't want to do that.y met in front of the media what did carter say he found beautiful in cuba the presidential palace, cigar, fidel's beard? what did carter find beautiful? cards up. cards up. >> you have a beautiful palace. >> spend more time with your guests. >> he used to spend more time with his guests until executed them. you both got that wrong. that means mckellum wins by 4. >> donald >> donald trump is going well in the gop polls. a lot of conservatives think might be bad for the party. they compared him to what left wing figure, michael moore, howard dean, c allen grace, dal sharpton. which one did he compare him to. >> then there's trump. trump is the al sharpton of the republican party. provocateur and clown i think he will harm the party if he runs for the same reason. >> i am going to be more frank. not easy with the doctor. little shy. >> get that right. good start. >> calm down a little bit. considering the law we required gay history to be taught in social studies curriculum. in californi
jimmy carter visited cuba and hung out with recall castro. who wouldn't want to do that.y met in front of the media what did carter say he found beautiful in cuba the presidential palace, cigar, fidel's beard? what did carter find beautiful? cards up. cards up. >> you have a beautiful palace. >> spend more time with your guests. >> he used to spend more time with his guests until executed them. you both got that wrong. that means mckellum wins by 4. >> donald >>...
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that is the jimmy carter system. once it starts to fail, somebody else must of bennett. he could not have done it because he was perfect. you must of done it because, after all, how could he have doneis tha-- how could he have it? [laughter] the president's comment on laziness fits into the concern of "the york times" for inequality. the rise of bureaucracy has encourage laziness and crippled the poor. we have created an environment where we send children off to school whose only function is to pay off the union. loss angeles unified -- los angeles unified is the largest district. if you live in a neighborhood where no one goes to work, if you have nobody near you who can teach you how to work, the number one thing you need to learn is how to shop. and then you need to learn that there is -- is have to show up. and then you need to learn that there is a connection between showing up and money. i get into this 20 years ago when liberals were contemptuous of what they describe as hamburger-flipping jobs. i was a fan of mcdonald's because i like to steady institutions that
that is the jimmy carter system. once it starts to fail, somebody else must of bennett. he could not have done it because he was perfect. you must of done it because, after all, how could he have doneis tha-- how could he have it? [laughter] the president's comment on laziness fits into the concern of "the york times" for inequality. the rise of bureaucracy has encourage laziness and crippled the poor. we have created an environment where we send children off to school whose only...
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bush in 2000 and jimmy carter in 1976.hough carter actually finished behind none of the above that year. but i'm sure you already knew that. >>> this is part of the show where we go beyond the partisan talking point to the heart of the political debate where all sides are "fair game." the republican presidential fight is starting to get a little nasty with just about three weeks to go before the iowa caucuses. it is especially bad between the top two, mitt romney and newt gingrich. this morning romney called gingrich reckless and said some of gingrich's comments are fine in a campaign but far from presidential. joining me now is cnn contributor will cain and democratic political consultant ed espinoza. guys, in that same interview romney also said gingrich should give back any money he got from consulting for freddie mac and fannie mae. let's listen to gingrich's reaction to that this morning. >> i would just say that if governor romney would like to give back all the money he's earned from bankrupting companies and laying
bush in 2000 and jimmy carter in 1976.hough carter actually finished behind none of the above that year. but i'm sure you already knew that. >>> this is part of the show where we go beyond the partisan talking point to the heart of the political debate where all sides are "fair game." the republican presidential fight is starting to get a little nasty with just about three weeks to go before the iowa caucuses. it is especially bad between the top two, mitt romney and newt...
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i would say barack obama is far more liberal than jimmy carter ever dreamt of being. therefore, we need a strong, bold candidate to hold barack obama accountable. just like i head ron paul accountable in the last debate when it came to dealing with a nuclear iran, i will hold barack obama in the upcoming debate. i can't rate to shred his radical policies in the debating arena. >> greta: speaker gingrich is calling for an end to negative ads and making a reference about super packs, where politician caninvestigate rate an opponent without having any fingerprints, it's the super pack and not the politician. would you join speaker gingrich in calling an end to negative ads? >> i don't have a super pack and i'm not running negative ads. i'm trying to get out a positive message. tonight when i'm in davenport we are just halfway mark. we are doing retail campaigning. we're on the ground. we're doing a 99 county tour all across iowa. we're doing all 99 counties in a ten-day period. we're going to ten counties a day and speaking with real iowans person to person and we're jus
i would say barack obama is far more liberal than jimmy carter ever dreamt of being. therefore, we need a strong, bold candidate to hold barack obama accountable. just like i head ron paul accountable in the last debate when it came to dealing with a nuclear iran, i will hold barack obama in the upcoming debate. i can't rate to shred his radical policies in the debating arena. >> greta: speaker gingrich is calling for an end to negative ads and making a reference about super packs, where...
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>>neil: the man who single-handedly brought jimmy carter down. >>guest: i get blame for everything. i will take it. >>neil: the governor says president obama is happy with second class status of the united states, according to governor daniels who will be my guest at 6:00. and now, in place of paying a.t.m. fees what do you now have to do with a new choice. get technology they love, on the network they deserve. like the powful droid char by samsung, or get the samsung stratosphere, and for a limited time, get twice the data for the same low price. verizon. >>neil: paying a.t.m. fees, sitting through commercials. now, neither is anyone's favorite, but my guest says you would be willing to face an ad rather than $3 charge. the man behind free a.t.m. new york, jones -- joins me. you can avoid the fee if you watch the commercial? >>guest: absolutely. the way we offer our services for free to the public is through third party advertisers so a customer sees on the screen advertising on the screen of the a.t.m. before they begin the transaction and they will type in how much money they wou
>>neil: the man who single-handedly brought jimmy carter down. >>guest: i get blame for everything. i will take it. >>neil: the governor says president obama is happy with second class status of the united states, according to governor daniels who will be my guest at 6:00. and now, in place of paying a.t.m. fees what do you now have to do with a new choice. get technology they love, on the network they deserve. like the powful droid char by samsung, or get the samsung...
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if you focus on something 20 years ago, you look like jimmy carter attacking ronald reagan. >> there are big issues on the table. the personal stuff goes away. i don't think whether it's religion -- i don't -- in mitt romney's defense, it wasn't talking about newt gingrich at the time. newt gingrich was an afterthought to him when he made that statement. >> when he said the same marriage, the same religion? >> it was said at that cnbc debate. it's an excerpt from the debate. >> they shouldn't put it out there. >> they made the decision to put it out there. they want to believe the family stuff is a big deal to evangelicals. i think you are right in this sense. i don't think voters this time are going to worry about the personal words. if newt gingrich is undone, he is going to have done it to himself in some form. realtime. i think the romney strategy is hoping to throw it at the wall and hope at some point he cracks. gingrich, when you have gotten under his skin, he cracks. he gets upset about air force one. that's the strategy. >> i have heard that today. thank you, chuck todd for
if you focus on something 20 years ago, you look like jimmy carter attacking ronald reagan. >> there are big issues on the table. the personal stuff goes away. i don't think whether it's religion -- i don't -- in mitt romney's defense, it wasn't talking about newt gingrich at the time. newt gingrich was an afterthought to him when he made that statement. >> when he said the same marriage, the same religion? >> it was said at that cnbc debate. it's an excerpt from the debate....
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. >> tonight on our great american panel, he was a former pollster for president jimmy carter and aner to george mcgovern's presidential campaign, pat caddell. he was a former mayor of providence, rhode island, with his own radio program, the buddy cianci show and the author of politics and pasta -- two of my favorite things, buddy cianci is here. and she's the director of the law fair project and the author of law fair, the war against free speech, brooke goldstein. great to see you guys on friday night. >> thanks. >> we have a little bit of breaking news happening tonight. the senate reached a tentative agreement to extend the payroll tax cut and extend unemployment benefits without raising tax, which is what president obama wanted to do. also, the republicans have gotten in this bill, a demand that the president make a decision on the keystone pipeline, also within the next two months. pat, your reaction? to me, it sounds like two months i. punt the ball two more months and we will have the whole fight in two months. he won't allow the pipeline. this is ridiculous. this is what th
. >> tonight on our great american panel, he was a former pollster for president jimmy carter and aner to george mcgovern's presidential campaign, pat caddell. he was a former mayor of providence, rhode island, with his own radio program, the buddy cianci show and the author of politics and pasta -- two of my favorite things, buddy cianci is here. and she's the director of the law fair project and the author of law fair, the war against free speech, brooke goldstein. great to see you guys...
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ronald reagan thought very long and hard about the degree to which jimmy carter and today obama is the new carter. he knew carter would lie. and they sort of surround you with lies. and how do you take on an incumbent president that doesn't get you sucked into fighting over the lies? and they have a simple phrase, there you go again. and every time carter would say something, reagan would go there you go again, and within seconds the entire country got it. >> if reagan's line was are you better off than you were four years ago, if you get the nomination, what would your line be about obama? >> can you really stand four more years of this? >> good line. let me give you a chance to respond to some of the attacks. freddie mac, cambridge group. you had a contract that said you could not lobby and every client you told you would not lobby, is that true? >> sure. >> is it miss portrayed in the press? >> some elements of the press, largely the obama re-election team are determined to distort everything they can. and we were compact, as randy, our attorney said, we brought in outside experts o
ronald reagan thought very long and hard about the degree to which jimmy carter and today obama is the new carter. he knew carter would lie. and they sort of surround you with lies. and how do you take on an incumbent president that doesn't get you sucked into fighting over the lies? and they have a simple phrase, there you go again. and every time carter would say something, reagan would go there you go again, and within seconds the entire country got it. >> if reagan's line was are you...
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he filed, and he ended up getting 7 percent of the vote in november against ronald reagan and jimmy carter but here is the interesting thing. the post election studies of the anderson vote showed that he took about equal numbers of votes from ronald reagan and jimmy carter. so, huntsman reminds me of that liberal republican john anderson who could cut both ways if he does this. >>neil: normally they do not galvanize a great deal of attention. roosevelt and perot did but there could be different because all you need is enough to swing votes in certain states like nader in florida in 2000, and you could tip the balance that way, right? >>guest: absolutely. nader cost gore the election not just in florida but in new hampshire. he made the difference between gore losing new hampshire to george w. bush in 2000, so, candidacy like that, even getting just 3 percent of the vote in this very polarized divided time can absolutely make the difference. >>neil: what if you have multiple names? in other words say you do not have to get them on all 15 state ballots but someone getting on five or six ball
he filed, and he ended up getting 7 percent of the vote in november against ronald reagan and jimmy carter but here is the interesting thing. the post election studies of the anderson vote showed that he took about equal numbers of votes from ronald reagan and jimmy carter. so, huntsman reminds me of that liberal republican john anderson who could cut both ways if he does this. >>neil: normally they do not galvanize a great deal of attention. roosevelt and perot did but there could be...
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he said, it was the only chance i had to gain ground on jimmy carter. because otherwise going the regular way wasn't going the work. so he challenged carter to the debate which was unheard of. and carter agreed. and he, they came within three points. i mean, it worked from -- then ford, of course, had a problem in one of the debates where he said the soviet union didn't dominate eastern europe. that hurt him. but, basically, the debates helped him gain ground big time on, on carter. and, but more importantly, it established the fact of presidential debates. there were, you know, and no candidate now could ever, ever say, no, no, no, i'm not, i'm not going to do presidential debates. you've got to run. you've got to participate. >> host: and jim lehrer writes about all of these stories that he's telling us in "tension city." his newest book. how many books have you written? >> guest: 23. >> host: how many nonfiction, how many fiction? >> guest: three nonfiction, 20 fiction. >> host: why? >> guest: gotta stay busy, man. [laughter] no, it's just what i do.
he said, it was the only chance i had to gain ground on jimmy carter. because otherwise going the regular way wasn't going the work. so he challenged carter to the debate which was unheard of. and carter agreed. and he, they came within three points. i mean, it worked from -- then ford, of course, had a problem in one of the debates where he said the soviet union didn't dominate eastern europe. that hurt him. but, basically, the debates helped him gain ground big time on, on carter. and, but...