we heard you as president jimmy joe biden urging the nation to stand up to the powerful gun lobby. is there any chance that this time there will be enough anger to say politicians legislate to stop this happening? i think there's very little chance of that, anthony. i mean, we heard that very emotional president biden, they're demanding action. this is a message i should say that we've heard echoed across washington from democratic senators and representatives. and it was just 10 days ago that there was a mass shooting at a supermarket and buffalo that killed 10 black americans. and if you look at the house of representatives where democrats do have a majority, they have been able to move forward with some type of gun regulation. so strict are background checks on the types of weapons that can be purchase, but that has stopped short and the senate republicans have repeatedly blocked any efforts to move forward with this legislation. and indeed, anthony, today we have seen already republicans calling for more armed protection at schools rather than less regulation to restrict access

jimmy. joe biden did if i was as close to joe biden. as i was to jimmy carter. i think joe biden has that same kind of humble. spirit the jimmy carter had only difference is he's roman catholic and the spirit moves a little slower. give me all my catholic friends, but but i think i mean just the people that have called me. i was talking to the president of former president of nigeria. and i said, you know. you ought to be president now because when south africa had the upper hand and was threatening to destroy africa. jimmy carter and obasanjo went to church together. and jimmy carter got up and read the old testament scripture and said i first heard a nigeria. when i was doing a car wash down in planes. to send books to a missionary school in nigeria when the president of nigeria gets up to read the new testament scripture, he says i want to thank you mr. president. i was a barefoot boy that had to walk three four miles every day to get to that school, but that's where i learned how to read and write. but that's also where he became. he ended up somehow. being t

pointing, that's not to blame fauci for yesterday's shooting, we're not that low, we're not joe biden. > jimmyyeah, you sure aren't. [ laughter ] more of a joe goebbels is what you are. ted cruz is blaming the doors, tucker carlson is blaming the fact that we're indoors. kids are turning gay from green m&ms. [ laughter ] the only way these guys are going to demand action is if a gender-neutral mr. potato head storms the school. then there will be a big problem. [ laughter ] of course, there were also a lot of mass shootings before the covid lockdown. but that doesn't fit into the narrative. and you're not going to get much more from people like lindsay graham. lindsey graham has been in washington for 27 years, and he still can't quite put his finger on this one. >> why do you think that this country is the only country in the world that constantly has mass shootings like this and elementary school shootings? >> yeah, well, we've had, you know -- one's too many. i don't have -- you know, i don't have the answers to all these -- i don't know why anybody would shoot their grandmother in their fa

americans, ap according to nbc, approvepr of joe biden's performance. 62% disapprove of biden's handling of the economy. those numbers are also worsete than jimmy carter's. 71% of americans.ca nsseventy one disapprove of joe biden's handling of the cost of living. the cost-of with his border policies fifty eight upset with his border policies. and listen to this . another new poll from quinnipiac found that joe biden has just a 26 percent approval a rating among hispanics. it's his lowestt among any demographic group. that's a flood of numbers coming. se numbers but as bad as those numbers are, there's evidence that theyh could be overestimating joe biden's popularity. a politicalee science professor named eddie zipora looked at a recent poll by marist and the poll found that joe biden's approval rating is 39% in line what we saw from the othere polls, but the marist institute poll reported that joe biden'spo popularity was much higher. in fact, almost 50% among baby boomers and the silent generation. can that be right? zipora did some number crunching and he found that fifty two percent of people who are over 65 willmp they voted for donald tr

when republican operatives were coming up 10 years ago we were told compare people to jimmy carter. now joe bidenmmy carter look good. the party in charge gets blamed when things aren't going well and the white house knows it and trying to change the subject. i don't think they will have that much luck. >> bill: great to see you today. interesting analysis, colin reed the dc. >> dana: l.a.'s county progressive d.a. gascon under fire surrounding a child molester serving only two years in a juvenile facility because when it happened he was two weeks from turning 18. now he is charged with first degree murder in a separate case. she is a transgender woman. this case brought a lot of attention. we had the tape of her calling her father and saying gascon will get me out of this. now with the new development what do you make of it? >> good morning. you know, nothing that has happened in this case should be surprising because when you have a district attorney like george gascon who only represents the interests of defendants and criminals, this is what is going to happen. people like tubbs will get the

of americans according to nbc approve of joe biden's performance, 60 to percent disapprove of his handling of the economy. those numbers are also worse than jimmyrter's. amity 1 percent of americans, 7 disapprove of the joe handling of the cost-of-living 58 upset with his border policies, and listen to this, another new pol from quinnipiac found joe biden has a 26 percent approval ratin among hispanics, it's his lowes among any demographic group. that's a flood of numbers comin at you. bad as those numbers are, there is evidence they could be overestimating the joe biden popularity. of political science eddies of her, looked at a recent poll by marist in the poll found that joe biden's approval rating is 39 percent, that's in line with what we saw from the other, but the institute will reported tha the popularity was much higher. in fact a most 50 percent among baby boomers. can that be right? they did some number crunching and found 50 to percent of people over 65, they voted for donald trump in 2020, and the institute poll found that 2 percent, just 2 percent of people that supported donald trump in 2020 now have shifted to having a favorable

biden has always been 82%, michelle, i'm sorry, 82% wrong democrats. i'm sorry, i can barely see here. >> harris: stomach >> jimmy: you can't remember names because you're talking about joend you are becoming him. speak i'm sorry, michelle. just a big drop. >> michelle: my sister's name is julie so i will answer on her behalf. i am not into identity politics paid when we say hispanics feel this way versus however, i come from hispanic family. i know what my dad and mom wanted for us when i was growing up. they wanted public safety. they want a great education. they wanted a good economy. my dad always preached to me you love and the greatest country in the world. right now, dad you're probably turning over a new grave because this country is not the way you left it. i think in general the populated area from this president is getting so low. i want to know who is thinking we are going in the right direction parade where they live and what they are taking. >> emily: their institutionalized. [laughter] well said, michelle. all right, fox news alert. we are getting explosive testimony in the trial of former clinton campaign lawyer, michael sussman. what her former campaign

i mean, how mad can you get at joe biden? >> jimmyi don't know. [ laughter ] ask the animals who keep calling him brandon, i guess. senator graham has not commented on the tape yet. you know you're a crappy person when somebody damages your reputation by recording you being nice. [ laughter ] once the smoke cleared, it took no time for lindsey to get right back to licking trump's golf shoes and beating biden up. >> joe biden scared the hell out of me, looked weak as commander in chief. putin owns biden. biden's afraid of escalation. he's afraid of making putin mad. bden is afraid of putin. joe biden is responsible for the rise of isis as much as any single american politician. get off your ass and go to the border and look and see what you have caused. he has blood on his hands and he's made america less safe and he's been the most consistently wrong man on foreign policy in my lifetime. >> jimmy: the reason he does this, as we all know, is because lindsey graham's spine is made of twizzler. [ laughter ] the strawberry one. meanwhile,

jimmy carter. they are worried about joe biden and the democrats in general, unable to keep control, just because ofnflation. it is suspected to come down. if you look at goldman sachs, in november, there will be 7% inflation. that is something that will haunt this administration. tom: there had to be a radical change. how do they respond today? >> these are numbers that wall street will talk about, but in washington, the main issues they are talking about is what we have today? fresh record. you are going and filling up your truck. they will come out with another inflation speech, blaming the war in russia, the fact that they account for outside perspective. you look at wheat and how they can do more to keep a robust, domestically focused produce in this country. how do you alleviate some of these concerns? they will continuously hammer them on not bringing prices down. he told us that this was going to be temporary. lisa: you mentioned the price hike. we want to delivery on whether or not they will force russia to default on their debt. what are the pros and cons? how much to be playing into the i

then the nbc news poll, 6% of voters believe putin is to blame while most americans blame joe biden. ask jimmywhat happened with the inflation. he's the last democratic one-tern president, martha. >> martha: joe, you make a gray point. we have seen pivots in the past. there's been a lot of people including mark penn who has said you need to pivot. then i see two pieces out of "the washington post" back-to-back. one says the president is engaging in magical thinking when it comes to the reasons for inflation. that he basically needs to look in the mirror and face the reasons, the enormous amount of stimulus that got bumped into the country. and these another piece by katherine, a economics writer. she says an inflation conspiracy theory is infecting the democrat party. she goes after what she's coining as greedflation. she's saying the idea of blaming all of these companies for racing their prices when all of the priceses of everything has gone up and they're trying to keep their heads above water in a lot of cases, some are doing well. but she says it's the wrong way to go about it. what do yo

the worst administration in a hundred years, jimmy carter is probably the happiest guy in the work, joe biden 100 years. you are right. abortion would not be outlawed. that is a fact, california the state they live in, most liberal abortion laws in country with new york. they are facts. the liberals, left wing, socialists, marxists, they don't deal with facts, because they wanted to prey on people's emotions. anger and does that call for lying, no problem, as far as expecting violent? mark, we had violence here since the summer of 2020. and democrats, basically sanctioned it. so, there are law abiding citizens who want to preserve what makes this country so unique. law and order. freedom. liberty, what you talk about every week. and that is why this country needs a sweep in november. a republican president named trump in 2024. and bring back what is a so good about this country, people -- things that drive people here, but until that time, we, you have to keep telling the truth about the lies that are told on the left, i heard your program, you are right, let me be clear there is no differenc

jimmy failla, great to see you. >> of course. >> todd: can joe biden not see the bad optics of this or is that another cognitive skilline? >> they are all lacking. i have to be clear i did not go to the dinner, not for $365,000. it is such a bad luck, given what is going on in chicago. like in terms of crime and poverty and everything in between. joe biden is basically showing up for the titanic in terms of the living situations and raising money for himself while people are diving onto boats. so it is bad. he gave his big speech about farm and wheat. the only thing biden should speak about his wheat because only way you are growing the midterms is if you are really hot. >> carley: jimmy, look at the crime numbers, crime is searching a crossed chicago. robberies are up 17% of deliveries up 35%. theft 57%. the democrat police led to this. so who in their right mind is spinning $365,000 on a ticket? dnc ticket? >> listen, someone using fentanyl our credit cards because you are not carrying that kind of cash around chicago. it is said to, i love chicago and they have these beautiful walking tours and architecture. they

. ♪ [ cheers and applause >> jimmy: our next guest is the former white house press secretary for president joe bidenf freaking out hi mom [ laughter ] >> jimmy: this is exciting that you're joining msnbc pretty soon in the fall i mean, we're going to be neighbors. >> we are. >> jimmy: yeah, congratulations. >> do you have any tips for me >> jimmy: no i have -- for you? no you should tell me how to do it please congrats are you excited? are you nervous? do you know what you're gonna do >> i am so excited i mean, there's so much going on in the world it turns out right? >> jimmy: yeah >> a lot of news to talk about >> jimmy: exactly. >> and i'm going to be joining msnbc at a time when there's a a big midterm election, lot of things to explain to the american people. and joining this great team that's already doing that. so, i'm excited. i'm thrilled i'm ready to get started after i have a little time this summer >> jimmy: yeah, when will you start? around -- do we have a date in september? somewhere in there >> i'm starting in september >> jimmy: great. >> and again, midterm elections. >> jimmy: i kno

look at what is happening, overall for the joe biden approval rating the day of his administration, his overall approval at 41.1%. and that is tied with jimmyt is not just saying it off for the democrats. inflation, we are talking about withdrawal, there couldn't be more malaise than what we're seeing right now with the joe biden administration. every time that you see democrats step up, you see them sending a mixed message. they said we cannot use the defense production act, this week you see the administration and they decided to maybe look into this and step up to the challenge of the families are facing in this administration has been one step behind throughout and the level of the joe biden administration is staggering. >> if i'm not mistaken, i think that pete buttigieg, i think he had said something similar. >> he's giving every indication again, raising money for his campaign, and he will show that he can be donald trump, once again, in just two years. >> you think he is running against? >> well, i think joe biden should not run, we have seen what a disaster he has been, but is a republican in our ability to win back the white house

jimmy at 5 p.m. eastern time on local time.local.com or watch him joe biden on gutfeld also abby on park fox nation and may 23rd thanks so much for watching we'll be live here next saturday 10 p.m. eastern time and lawrence b. jones set your dvr so you never brian: welcome to "one nation." i'm brian kilmeade. it's the rise of the reasonable. some of the most powerful voices in america today are popular not for what they were known for in the past, but for their reasonable takes in my view. and they are labeled reasonable -- labeled radical because they are reasonable. they haven't changed over the years,he

jimmy carter, stagflation. in the 70s. that's what we're looking at now under president joe biden. >> neil: i'm way to young to remember thoset seemed to intimate that part of what is going on with the declining deficits is less spending. i'm thinking to myself, if the message is, you know, you pull back the spigot, you improve the inflation situation, then maybe that should be a reminder going forward the best way to deal with this is to put down the spending shovel. >> that's absolutely right. that's what put us in this position in the first place. larry summers talked about that last year with their so-called rescue plan. trillions of unneeded -- >> neil: you're talking about bill clinton's former treasurer secretary. >> yes. the president denied it was happening. the american people were living it every day. that's what the problem is right now, neil. the american people feel that this president has ignored their real needs, whether it's inflation, whether it's the crisis at the border. they think the president is focused on the wrong things. i'm from wyoming, an energy state. we know we can produce it a clean way. but t

and arson and chicago and los angeles and this whole idea that joe biden wants to fund the police, that's a gimmick because becauseic jimmy me if yu have a thousand police officers, if they're not prosecuting these career criminals, they're back on the street. a game a that democrats have abandoned law and order. . that's why we need people like gail income because the democrats do not care about the crime. those timi, the antifa, the black know the criminals, the criminal. that's the democratic base and they don't put their base in jail. that's a great point because gail, as i've noted, it's one thing about funding the police. butt what we hear constantly at the federal level is rhetoric from office holders and thesehe activists that condemn lawnd and order that condemn the infrastructure. and isn'tem that in a way when you're running for yes, you'dg, be representing new hampshire, but it's every voice matters because we're all in this together. oh , we are all in this. in fact, i went down to the southern border i was so concerned about not justentit security, our national security, but also about the festival that's co

and when it comes to joe biden possibly the weakest candidate the democrats have ever run that's saying a lot. they had jimmy just in our life times, jesse. we are not that old. they have had pretty awful candidates. what i can say about barack obama and bill clinton. listen, obviously being fervently against their ideological leanings, they had political skills, right? bill clinton had this greasy handshake even republicans after they left the room i would never vote for the guy but i get it, you know. obama could give a speech and the whole room -- i don't know what he said but they are clapping. joe biden none of this stuff. what does joe biden have? i don't understand like you know they say line in the secret service you really want an agent that looks the part, acts the part and talks the part? he doesn't do any of these. he doesn't look the part, act the part. he does none of it fake following thing is the least surprising thing of the day. >> jesse: now you have musk under fire and you have these -- i won't say it on air these people now disparaging his situation saying he has aspergers mocking him it

joe biden is down here at the bottom of the heap with donald trump and jimmy carter, two one-term presidents where his approval rating is right now at this point in the presidency. >> not a place you want to be. cnn political director david chal wherein. thanks so much. let's dig into the federal reserve's interest rate hike today. we're joined by betsy stevenson. we also have with us former reagan and trump campaign adviser arthur laugher. betsy, let me start with you. as we said the half-point increase in the interest rate, the biggest in 22 years. what kind of loans will be affected by the fed's announcement today? >> well, when the fed raises rates by half a point, that's affecting directly the inner bank rate. that's not what americans care about. what they care about are car loans, mortgage loans. we do see the fed raising rates, percolating through all those kinds of loans. it is worth noting that the market was already expecting this. we already saw some of that priced in. so i don't think we're going to see any big changes overnight. what we see is the fed delivered what they promis

. >> i think we maybe seeing a replay of 1970s with joe biden playing the role of jimmy carter i think the potential for stagflation. where we wind up with higher unemployment, but raging inflation, in combination. the chinese economy you know the last quarter, sales dropped something like 10%, overall their economy is doing very badly young people like at 18% unemployment. and i am sure chinese want to get out of that, but they can't do it if they have got the load of covid raging in the countries. >> we've talked a lot about fortune, and the communist party being the bad actor on global stage, now, we're seeing lawmakers, try to come up with some kind of china policy, i spoke with tennessee o senator bill hagerty yesterday on "sunday morning futures" asking why the biden administration is actually considering, lifting tariffs on china, watch this. >> there is a lot of pressure but put on china with tariffs, administration very painful putting tariffs in place the biden administration is take about taking them away as if going to have some sort of impact on inflation right here in ame

house correspondents that are there jokes about biden's approval ratings, trumps and even a guy name brandon. but is the joke really on joe? >> and jimmyaris take back the of the kids education a documentary or the actors making a bold statement about what is happening in public schools today. >> but first, a former democratic congresswoman as raising questions about who is really behind biden's new ministry of truth kelsey said it's biden's old boss former president barack obama. she tweeted this, quote biden is just a front man obama april 21, social media quote don't go far enough unquote. so the government needs to step into do the job. six days later homeland security rolls out the ministry of truth. also known as disinformation governance board. in fact it was just a week and a half ago that obama said this information is killing people. >> people are dying because of misinformation. we see our new information ecosystem is turbocharging some of humanity's worst impulses but regulation has to be part of the answer. while content moderation can limit the description of clearly dangerous content, that does not go far enough. >> sour

joe biden's migrant glaze? dan meuser wants to force the white house to give us the answer. he will be here live close jimmylla with answers in the form of comedy. attorney general ashley moody, they will all join us on a very busy thursday morning. ♪ ♪ why do nearly one million businesses choose stamps.com to mail and ship? no more trips to the post office no more paying full price for postage and great rates from usps and ups mail letters ship packages anytime anywhere for less a lot less get our special tv offer a 4-week trial plus postage and a digital scale go to stamps.com/tv and never go to the post office again ♪ ♪ >> carley: it turns out president biden's judicial nominees once said voter i.d. laws are "grounded in white supremacy." natosha murrell is currently a director of litigation at the naacp. during an interview 2017 she commented, "it is inconsistent but not repute voter i.d. laws." she's being challenged on a statement at a nomination hearing last month. >> do you believe if you are against white supremacy, you have to be against voter i.d. laws? >> i agree there are circumstances where vo

joe biden progressive work world that's been so damaging. so i kind of like this. and may surprise you, makes me think of jimmy carter. >> greg: why?'s a reach, but -- the finest line jimmy carter ever said in his presidency is, some things in life are unfair. so if you don't like the company you work for and the company is less woke than it used to be then you can quit. that's all there is to it. >> greg: exactly [cheers and applause] >> greg: jimmy carter was president right before ronald reagan '76, '80. you were only about 15 >> kat: right. >> greg: do you think the people who cancelled netflix might come back now? do you this i this will help hem? >> kat: i don't know. a lot of stuff on netflix just sucks, that's the issue. >> greg: really bad >> kat: but i can't imagine not agreeing with this and i hate when people say it's a matter of people being over sensitive that they can't handle it. it's not sensitivity to demand that every single thing that happens at the company you work for you personally agree with. that's being selfish. like that's being a jerk not a sensitive person. >> greg: exactly. look you know how i feel abo

joe biden is doing his best impression of jimmy carter.ocrats are on the wrong side of the house loss, five seats in the senate. we have a mayoral race, rick caruso who was a democrat in name only is leaving the field and the two issues in the race are rising crime and how filthy los angeles is, these are not winning issues for liberals. when you have a major city like los angeles, what is the democratic narrative? who are you going to blame, republicans? this is a bad situation for the democrats. for anyone to think that this will be competitive in november is shouting at the moon. host: sean, comments on that? guest: i think it is likely that there will be fewer losses than that. certainly we could see a pretty bad midterm. as i said, the trend has been in larger cities for larger politicians to be winning. people tend to be able to distinguish municipal elections from who they want to control the government. while they do give a sense of mobilization, i think the midterm election which will be decided in six months, they will be a refer

joe biden is doing his best impression of jimmy carter.ocrats are on the wrong side of the 40 to 50 house loss come november. i will give you a perfect example. in los angeles, we have a mayoral race. caruso, who is a billionaire developer who is a democrat in name only, is leading the field. the two issues in the race are homelessness, rising crime, and how filthy los angeles is. these are not winning issues for liberals or democrats. when you have a major city like los angeles and the only real issue is homelessness, i mean, what is the democratic narrative? there is only democrats that serve in office. who are you going to blame? republicans that don't exist? this is a really bad situation for the democrats and for anyone to think this is going to be competitive in november is really shouting at the bullet. thank you. host: comment on that? guest: i think it is likely there will be fewer losses than that but if the ground falls out of the democratic party, we could see a pretty bad midterm. the trend has been in larger cities for a more

jimmy carter was doing an interview. he was asked if afghanistan was part of our defensive premised her and he said no. within months the soviets invaded afghanistan. joe biden a couple of months ago was asked about our interest, was asked about ukraine. he said a little invasion is okay, i am paraphrasing, something like that. anyway, he telegraphed to putin that he could make the move without cause for concern. now he said he back trapped on the previous thing imagine if he had been more careful with his words how this might not have happened. that is a good example, as good an example as anything i can think of about when we study history to long to learn from it. you know, it gives us a sense of dignity, a sense of purpose, it gives us a sense of where we belong says. we need to know why for instance, in the second continental congress when they were working on the constitution is that the first man. everybody knows about freedom of speech, freedom a religion. but jammed in there is freedom of the press. it does not really fit but it is in there. not because the founders liked the tabloids of the time. they hated them, they despise them. but they saw the

jimmy failla. delivery activist and foundation for economic education, writer, olivia rondeau. surprised they let me in. i nest, this is a bad idea. i know jen psaki is trying to frame it as joe bidenso spontaneous and smart and creative, he comes up with wacky things out of nowhere. robin williams on 1984. [laughter] god rest his soul. >> there are several rules to politics and life in general, land war in asia and the other one is don't are a flame work with trump. it's not exactly surprising this backfired. trump likes this. anybody who has observed the former president for half a second would realize he would love this nickname. i think what was stranger about the current president comments, he called him extreme for an extreme agenda as his administration has, i find it gas light and weird when republicans push back against extreme items on the biden agenda, they are called extreme so there is a back-and-forth. kennedy: i think you could argue there are intense extremes going on at the same time in this country. is it smart to get into a nickname war with the former president? whenever i see marco rubio, i think marco rubio. >> little marco and for whatever reason, love it. th

jimmy carter there will be a primary challenge. who it may be is the question. pete buttigieg even on air force 2, kamala harris' plane, is he talking to the press asked if joe bidenust say joe biden is running i stand behind him. he gave a very nuanced kind of vegas answer i can tell you if any cabinet official gave in trump's cabinet probably wouldn't be a cabinet member anymore. >> jesse: if they do have that primary debate, we will be watching and that will just be delicious. thank you so much, kayleigh. >> thanks, jesse. >> jesse: we have some answers to some of your questions. back with the texts. plus, don't forget to set your dvr. i know basketball is on. but dvr "primetime." ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ introducing the all-new infiniti qx60. take on your wild world in style. ♪ ♪ ♪ scotts turf builder triple action kills weeds, prevents crabgrass, and feeds your lawn. all three, in just one bag. i like that. scotts turf builder triple action. it's lawn season. let's get to the yard. weathertech is the trusted brand that offers premium products for ultimate protection, like our laser measured floorliners. now there's the weathertech comfortmat. anti-fatigue support and cush

jimmy carter. >> let's go back to the list of recent presidents you might have had some interaction with. the current president, have you spent any time around him? >> i know joe biden pretty well. i once wrote a long profile of joe biden for rolling stone, when he was vice president. he took me around. i had a private dinner with him at the vice president's home. i got to talk to him quite a bit. i once spent time with him up in boston, in a very real way. yes, anybody could pull up my profile of mine for rolling stone. i feel i know him well. >> what did you see up close? >> he has -- had such a storied political career. everybody knows joe biden. it would be impossible to interact with washington, d.c., and not have had an encounter with him. he's a little bit -- as he has gotten older, and seems to feel pain after the loss of a bow, there is no question there's a little eisenhower in him, in a sense that it's impossible not to like him. then there's a little ronald reagan, as he's aging and his forgetfulness. at heart, he's a liberal. he's of that generation of ted kennedy and walter mondale. he emerges out of that. he was very close to ted kennedy. he's markete

you know, we thought jimmy carter had sort of invented every possible terrible thing and he never even thought of that. but joe bidens who are very worried, they don't want to be seen with the guy, and then along with that, the fact that they are all beginning to really lose credibility with average voters, both republican, independents and democrats. >> gillian: we booked you to talk about politics, and mindful of that, but while i have you here, we are awaiting this, you mentioned policies, you brought it on yourself. waiting for the decision of title 42 by a judge in louisiana, the president wants to let it expire monday. which way do you think this is going to go and tell us about the political fallout if tithes 42 does, you know, go by the wayside on monday. >> well, i don't know exactly how the judge is going to rule on this, obviously. but you want to talk about an issue, because that -- that sums up economics and security. i can't -- and of course, it's an issue that i think a lot of washington and politicians have sort of ignored for a long time. it's the reason donald trump got elected in 2016 and remains

in 1979, jimmy carter was doing an interview and he was asked if afghanistan was part of our defensive perimeter and he said no and within months soviets invaded afghanistan is that joe biden a couple months ago was asked about our interest in or no. he asked about about ukraine and he said what a little invasion is. okay, so i'm paraphrasing here something like that. but but anyway, he telegraphed to putin he could make he could make the move without without cause for concern and so now he said obviously backtrack on that previous thing, but imagine if he'd been more careful with this words how this might not have happened. so that's a good example. that's as good example as anything. i can learn i can think of about we study history to to learn from it, but you know, it gives us a sense of dignity gives us sense of purpose. it gives us a sense of where we belong it gives it, you know, we need to know why like for instance when the second continental congress when they were working on the constitution, is that the first men everybody knows about, you know, freedom of speech freedom assembly freedom religion, but at the jammed in there is freedom of the press doesn't reall

jimmy carter. fact to the list of recent presidents you might have had some interaction with the current president. have you ever spent any time around here? well, i know joe biden pretty well, i once wrote a long profile of joe biden for rolling stone when he was vice president. he took me around. i also had a private dinner with him at the at the vice president's home and got to talk to him quite a bit and and once spent time with them up in boston in a very real way. so yes anybody could pull up my profile of biden for rolling stones. so i feel i know him. well, what did you see up close? well, he had such a story political career and everybody kind of knows joe biden being possible to interact with washington dc and not have had an encounter with him. you know, i think he's a little bit there's a as he's gotten older he's and seems to feel pain. are the loss of bo there's there's no question. there's a little eisenhower in them in the sense that it's impossible not to like him and then there's a little ronald reagan and as he's aging in his forgetting fullness, but at heart he's a liberal he's of that generation of ted kennedy and walter mondale and and you

jimmy carter george h. bhaush that does to you you are doomed no sticker you can run on everybody feels inflation. >> joe bidena dirty word. >> there's that divisiveness even though said would unify the leak of abortion opinion meant to distract everybody from conversation the economy, inflation, gas prices consumers people are feeling the pinch i think in pennsylvania, for example, abundance of riches, two really good candidates one trump's endorsement one doesn't see what happens the issues people care about need to focus on. >> could we be in recession in november or midterm. >> i don't think likely there is a chance could have some residue of a recession by 2024 presidential election, continue spending we have a lot of liquidity out there, that can carry us through into 2023 before economy gets in trouble would i would like to know how many voted in the senate primary for the republicans, and democrats total numbervotes you had for those elections, that might be interesting, i am not really you know thrilled by the fact whoever wins the republican primary in pennsylvania, does so with -- one third of the v