michael strahan is on, jimmy johnson. i have a blast. >> jimmy: i worked with jimmy at the end. some did not like me. >> i heard that. >> jimmy: and hated me. >> i think that's false. >> jimmy: no, that is not false. >> say the one you think hates you. >> jimmy: i know howie long. >> i disagree. >> jimmy: how -- >> is there anyone better than i find him magical. he loves his wife, he's so proud of his kids. >> jimmy: so handsome, he's got a head like a horse and a neck like a -- he's a beautiful man. no question about it. >> but he's such a family man. >> jimmy: nothing on the inside. a football where a brain should be. >> not so. >> jimmy: don't let the glasses fool you. there is nothing going on in there. >> no wonder he hates you. >> jimmy: that's probably why. >> but terry's fabulous and he's

maxwell lawyered up a study that question and the first person he hired to do the study was jimmy johnson. johnson came from the small town of bentsen, minnesota. i went there. didn't find much. from these humble beginnings johnson became a big operator in the democratic party. he worked for the presidential campaigns of gene mccarthy, musky, george mcgovern, walter mondale. in fact, almost everybody ever backed for the presidency ended up losing and they didn't even come close but that didn't matter because he was a smart fellow with great contacts in washington so johnson did this study about whether to give up the charter and the answer came back no way. for the shareholders the government banking was too valuable. it meant fannie mae could borrow money cheaply and make huge profits and pay huge salaries all the while supporting the idea of what nice house and white picket fence for everybody. fannie basically made a deal with the devil. it was going to keep its privileges and do whatever it had to do to defend those privileges in congress and as fannie became more political, who would

. >> jay: i want to thank my guests don johnson, julia scardina, and darius rucker. jimmyright now. jimmy! [ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> from studio 6b in rockefeller center, the national broadcasting company presents -- tonight's guests are -- and featuring the legendary roots crew. and here he is -- jimmy fallon! [ cheers and applause ] captions paid for by nbc-universal television -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com ♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: oh. that's what i'm talking about. that's a beautiful crowd right there. i feel the love. great new york city crowd. oh, my gosh. welcome, everybody. welcome to "late night with jimmy fallon," everybody. [ cheers ] we have a fun show tonight. really funny people. really talented people on the show tonight. big news, you guys. mcdonald's just announced that it's bringing back the mcrib later this month. [ cheers and applause ] or, as the mayans put it, "hey, we tried to warn you." [ laughter ] this is exciting. barbara walters has released part of her "most fascinating people" list. and this year hillary clinton and honey

jimmy: the first win for both of you. you beat a room full of champions. melissa, the first time you competed on the show, shawn johnsonon after a very close final vote. she was in the final two tonight and finally, you have exacted your revenge. one by one your enemies are being crushed. [ laughter ] will jason be next? >> not commenting on that one. >> jimmy: did you remember to vote for yourself this time? >> yes, yes, i did. yeah. >> jimmy: tony, does this victory make up for having to dance with kate gosselin a few years ago? [ laughter ] >> you could say that. she's a sweetheart. i'm sure she voted for us. >> you're so nice. >> jimmy: tonight is your third wedding -- your 13th wedding anniversary. is it your third? which is it? >> 13, actually. my wife was in the audience. she is -- this is the best present i could have ever given her. >> jimmy: the best present you could ever give her is dancing with another woman? [ laughter ] that's a very understanding wife. melissa, what are you going to do with that trophy? what is the plan for it? >> i think i'm going to put it on my front lawn or maybe on the hood of my c

lyndon johnson can after kennedy and his obsession with vietnam so he declined precipitously. subsequent presidents such as gerald ford, jimmy carter made a very serious efforts to achieve a rapprochement with castro, quite the opposite of what kennedy was doing. so yes, cuba has waxed and waned and it's been a different kind of priority over these 50 years, so it is with american presidents. estimate on the reverse side, does cuba have good assets, did they have good assets in the u.s.? has the castro regime ever tried to assassinate a u.s

lyndon johnson from texas, richard nixon from california, gerald ford was never elected. he was not even elected vice president. he was a michigan. jimmy carter from georgia. ronald reagan from california. first george bush, texas by a connecticut. bill clinton from arkansas, and the second bush from texas. so 2008 is in some ways a watershed election. it is this 40 year period of sun belt dominance. and there were issues that are critical in the politics that develop, that came out of the sun belt. they tended to have a conservative task to them. they tended to be oriented around history of strong national defense, of an opposition to unions and a defense of free enterprise politics. and also it's in the sun belt, in the south and southwest that we see the rise of what we see by the 1970s is becoming to talk about as the religious right, the rise of evangelical involved in the clinical process in new and important ways. so thurmond was at the forefront of all of those issues in his own politics. national defense, he was a staunch anti-communist. he played an important role in right wing anti-communist populist politics in the late '50

johnson. [laughter] mrs. robb has served for 44 years and is now chairman emeritus. she was appointed by president jimmy carter to serve as chair of the president's advisory committee for women. she put her own career, including as a contributing editor @ "ladies' home journal" on hold to work with her husband on his successful virginia and the minute choral candidacy. as virginia's first lady, she launched and chaired the grid kenya district -- the virginia history project. she is here with her husband who has always been here before and her daughter and grandchildren. previously, a columnist and associate editor for "the new york sun" and chief speechwriter for read giuliani -- for rudy giuliani, he was responsible for writing the eulogies for the firefighters and fresh responders who died on 9/11. evelyn is also editor of the anthology "deadline of august, america's greatest newspaper columns." so now, let's listen to a conversation on growing up in the white house. please join me in welcoming them to the chautauqua stage. [applause] >> by way of beginning, last night, we were sitting up late talking