jimmy keene: i noticed he was reading his hometown newspaper. entually for me to start cracking into his psyche. lester holt: even though the goal was tricia's body, jimmy decided to ask first about something already public knowledge-- hall's conviction in the jessie roach case. jimmy fit that his mother lived near wabash, and read about jessie's case and other stories involving hall. she gets that newspaper from that home town where you're from. and i said, all the newspaper stories say that you've killed multiple women. that was a big risk, though? it all was a big risk. and i said, larry, i don't care what you're in here for. but be honest with me, that's all. just tell me what happened, man i said, you know, i'm still going to be your friend no matter what. and i said, you know, i've had girls do me wrong in my life. i understand how girls can get under your skin and how they can be bothersome to you. lester holt: jimmy said he pressed hall about jessie roach. at last, hall began to open up, recalling that september day in 1993. he was drivin

craig melvin: what if someone asks you to risk your life-- jimmy keene: what if i get shanked?

jimmy was. she had she had a very keen sense of people and of politics. she was intuitive. she would get exasperated sometimes with the president because he was not paying in her, in her opinion, sufficient attention to the political implications of what he wanted to do. but time and time again, whether it was a panama canal or or energy policy or the creation of, of. of energy. um, i lost my train of thought. forgive me. yes. well, he he created the department of energy, and that was a that was a controversial thing to do. he he wanted to reduce by, by orders of magnitude the the country's reliance on foreign oil. and and he did that when he came, when he came into office. uh, we were we were very dependent on foreign oil. when he left office, we had we had dropped our reliance on imported oil by 1.8 million barrels a day. and that's that's simply because he was so dedicated to getting that done. >> and, jack, you know, his success in politics, it seems really unlikely when you look at it, a peanut farmer from humble beginnings, ultimately becoming president. how did he be

jimmy was. she had she had a very keen sense of people and of politics. she was intuitive. she would get exasperated sometimes with the president because he was not paying in her, in her opinion, sufficient attention to the political implications of what he wanted to do. but time and time again, whether it was a panama canal or or energy policy or the creation of, of of energy, um, i lost my train of thought. forgive me. yes. well, he he created the department of energy. uh, and that was a that was a controversial thing to do. he he wanted to reduce by by orders of magnitude the country's reliance on foreign oil. and and he did that when he came, when he came into office. uh, we were we were very dependent on foreign oil. when he left office, we had we had dropped our reliance on imported oil by 1.8 million barrels a day. and that's that's simply because he was so dedicated to getting that done. >> and, jack, you know, his success in politics, it seems really unlikely when you look at it, a peanut farmer from humble beginnings ultimately becoming president. how did he beat