to jack kemp's son, jimmy kemp, good to see you. i'm going to try to say this nicely.k perry had his shot, is he seen as an also-ran, texas is struggling with job losses because of the energy sector? >> well, look, it's absolutely way too early to say whether or not anybody is in it or not. the great part of what we have in this republican primary coming up, this competition, and as you know, we've got to have competition in our politics. we have to have competition in the economy. what you all were talking about with what the white house is doing on overtime pay is going to make us as a country less competitive. one of the things candidates have got to focus on is how we're going to create jobs in this country again? how are we going to restore our culture of aspiration as opposed to the culture of expectation which the current administration clearly with policies like the overtime expansion are establishing. so rick perry has a great shot because his record from texas is strong, and we need to think as a country about how we can really create jobs, it certainly doesn