we have a picture of it. >> okay. >> jimmy: kirk, what was that for?his life. that's what you do to people. you change people's lives. i mean, it's crazy. now this is tomorrow night, you're doing the apollo. >> yes. >> jimmy: sold out show. that's where it all began. that's where it all started. >> we wanted to do that because that was the birth place, from gary indiana to the apollo. we wanted to give something back and do the apollo theater, because amateur night, we used to be at the apollo, six shows a night. you know? >> jimmy: six shows a day, at the apollo? >> yeah, back in the '60s. during 65, 66. >> jimmy: is that right? when did you start the show? what time like, did you go into -- >> in the afternoon. >> jimmy: oh, start in the afternoon? >> afternoon. >> jimmy: how would you get from gary, indiana to -- >> we drove. >> we had a volkswagen van, and we would drive. >> jimmy: like a bus, like a vw bus. >> the vw bus. >> jimmy: i love it. >> after apollo, it was on to motown. >> yeah, then after apollo it was on to motown. this is the future n