jimmy lemmon? no, jimmy lemmon, the guy who does the announces the fight. "from, wearing the --" and they're always a pugilist, never a fighter. >> pugilist? >> a pugilist, yes. a ten round exhibition >> i guess i do know what a pugilist is. that's an odd word for it. >> how have you been? >> i'm fine. i've been doing this film for five or six weeks and having a wonderful time. >> yeah. >> burt is terrific guy. doesn't take that macho image too seriously. he is a woman, you know. >> i didn't -- you see it's a -- >> i wasn't aware of that. another hollywood revelation, right here. >> you wouldn't know it. the thing about it is these stuntmen are doing this things i don't believe. i was brought up with my parents saying, "be careful, that lamp cord. you know, that kind of thing. where white when you go out at night so the cars can see you." >> don't go swimming half hour after you eat. >> gotta wait an hour. >> that's right. >> although my father told me later that you didn't have to wait an hour. it depended on what you had. he was the arbiter on the beach.