jimmy smits is planning one. they focus group test television shows, like they do with new car models. the companies that do that work are the same month that two mock jury trials. so your audience is also a jury pool. a defense lawyer are all the ones that you would imagine if you were describing gregory peck. someone with high integrity, someone who will do anything it takes to win. they do not have an expectation of what they need to look like. but those qualities seem to be universal. those have not changed. those are the same qualities they were looking for when perry mason was popular. old, traditional values. it seems to me if afl-cio can buy ad time on dodger games, i do not understand why public defenders cannot do the same thing. the last point i want to make, i served on the california judicial bench council on media. you may or may not know that newspapers are cutting back their coverage of court to all the time. the tradition of the journalistic way of getting your story out does not exist anymore. t

jimmy smits and jamie who played lila and john lythgoe and johnny lee miller and now me. >> jimmy: maybe now, too. >> you could be next year. >> jimmy: wow. that's -- odd. that can't be intentional. >> it's fortunate, really, for me. >> jimmy: i guess so. really, who knew the day you were born it would mean one day you would be murdered on "dexter." or not murdered. >> don't make assumptions. >> jimmy: i won't. if you don't, you can come back next season. >> this conversation is already gone too far. >> jimmy: has it really? have you said too much? >> i have not -- see? >> jimmy: you are going to have to go -- >> i have not. i have said nothing. >> jimmy: "dexter" protection program? >> no, no. i could -- i was sitting at home in my pajamas today, and i lied to you. i'm not going to be -- >> jimmy: do you really wear pajamas? because most people don't actually wear pajamas anymore. they just use that term, but really, it's underpants. >> underpants is such a not sexy term. >> jimmy: i know. but pajamas? >> ah, no, i don't wear pajamas. >> jimmy: thank you. you're trying to deceive us on

now, remember, this is not about creating the next jimmy smits or antonio banrases or jennifer lopezes. performing arts can be a transformative educational ol, can engage kids in a way that other approaches cannot. we have had independent studies done on the work that we've done th the students, and we have found that they have improved their attendance. they also ha better homework completion, more class participaon. this is reported by the teachers. >> the success of beyond borders has gone beyond anyone's wildest dreams, with greatly improved student scoring on state and national standardized testing. >> you were wonderful today, all of you, really good. i feel we've struck educational gold as soon as it's over, it's got to be that cool thing of, like, all right, that was cool! when we get together as actors before every performance, we say, "remember that your performance today can change a life." you know? >> be re to join us next week for part two of our look at tony plana when we go with him on the closed set of "ugly betty." and coming up next on "hispanics today," toyota is ce

a few little while later, we need the names of the little girls who had been killed and jimmy smits near, who was one of those little girls would've been a kindergarten friend, there's a picture in the book of my father giving her her graduation diplomacy for kindergarten. so it was a very sad and in many ways terrifying day for a community. >> what were some of the daily reminders before 1964, 1965, growing up there with a segregated town and you are african-american? >> guest: couldn't go any place as a public accommodation, including we move to denver when i was 12 years old. but there were sometimes little spikes. for instance, we went to visit santa claus. you know how it is. i'll go to visit santa claus. you go to the department store, stand in line and then he told santa claus what you want. and as i was approaching the line, that particular day was taken away kids and putting him on this and taken the black kids and holding them out here. and i heard him say to my mother, angelina, if he does that to condoleezza, i'm going to pull all that stuff off of him and show him just a cra

you had john lithgow last season, jimmy smits the season before. do you entice these big actors to come on the show? >> i don't know. it's a shot in the arm when we are able to attract people of this caliber to join us. >> any hints what she will do? >> sometimes i feel like dexter's press secretary, answering questions without saying anything but she serendipitously appears in dexter's life at the end of a third season and start a relationship that is adversarial. through his relationship through the character julia styles plays, dexter is moving towards atoning for -- for his wife's murder. >> okay. we can see her in the third episode which airs sunday. >> that's right. >> we'll all be watching. i want to ask you about the personal battle you are recovering from. you were diagnosed with hodgkin's lymphoma late last year and underwent treatment. >> that's right. >> you are in remission now. >> i am. i have been for some time. treatment wrapped up mid-march this past spring. i feel great, very fortunate. >> you were diagnosed at 38, the same age yo