>> del yes, we have jimmy webb, a confidant of martin luther king. tell us about your background with this. >> i came here in 1965 with the intent to stay two weeks train students the philosophy of mahatma gandhi and two weeks turned into two years and then a lifetime. >> and you were at the march. >> all three marchs. >> describe the experience out there. were you expecting it to get as violent as it did? >> no, as a matter of fact we were some what surprised. when we marched that first day there were not a lot of cops harassing us. when we came down across the bridge we found out why there were no cops harassing us. they were all at the bottom of the bridge. there was a sea of blue and gray and behind them were the sheriff's posse on horses. >> a lot of hate, it seems that day, from the police. >> yes, as a matter of fact, al lingo, the colonel with the alabama state troopers told us we had five minutes to disperse, and then three minutes they started popping tear gas and driving people back across the bridge. >> if you--from your memory, they just