jin liqun told us exclusively what government banks need to do to help poorer natheir debt.big issue for quite a of low-income countries, and i think there could be different approaches to dealing with these debt problems. for instance, creditors can work them out. multilateral institutions such as the world bank and our institution, should do very much, in my view, to provide new , fresh money to the indebted countries so they can continue to grow. so that on the one hand, debt reduction is important. g20 members are working on this. on the other hand, particularly for the mdb's, multilateral development banks, providing money to their economies so they can sustain their, is important. shery: how directly should mdb's be involved? jin: so far as debt restructuring is concerned, it is an arrangement between the creditors and debtors. mdb's work includes cooperation with governments, and i think it is important for mdb's to understand what other big issues facing these countries and in what way we can come to their help at this particular moment. haidi: do you think multilate