. >> with the government of hu jintao? >> reform in china did not start today. and started 35 years ago. reform started dirty five years ago and we have been proceeding with reform all along in the last -- we started 35 years ago and we have been proceeding with reform all along in the last 35 years. for the new leadership, there is determination that we have to. out sweeping comprehensive reform -- we have to carry out sweeping reform. >> it raises the question of journalism and free expression. the new york times and bloomberg and others have reported activities of china's most prominent families. they say that the access and visas were restricted and they were not allowed to report. why is that and what is the status of it today? >> many of the media agencies, including the new york times and bloomberg, they are ready have a large presence in china. they are reporting development in china. my hope and not just in my capacity as chinese ambassador, but my capacity as longtime leader of the new york times, abide by the laws and the rules. >> is it against the l