the first person he ever physically attacked was jo ann. picked up a cycle in the backyard and tried to stab her. her parents stopped him. his explanation, she made me do it. it wasn't my fault. she is older than me. i was defending myself. in first grade, not only told to me by joann, but corroborated by other people who were in school with manson at the time. first grade, he organized some girls in the class to beat up a boy he doesn't like. the principal comes looking for charlie. his explanation? the girls were doing what they wanted to do out of their own -- that's they wanted. you can't blame me. the same defense he uses all the years later with tate. >>> you can watch this and other programs online at booktv.org. >>> here is a look at some books being published this week. .. i know most of you and i'm very glad to see you and i am here talking about my book, "why teach" and i'm going to talk about it about 25 minutes or so, i hope not much longer than that. then you can ask questions or whatever your in the mood for. we have c-span h

. >> host: jo ann in illinois on the democrat line. >> caller: good morning. i have a comment to make. our country has been on shut down for the last two weeks. it's because of this man's group and people that support him and everybody has learned from the last three weeks that government is good and that we need government. .. if i'm not mistaken i heard that this company his organization freedom works just filed for bankruptcy. so why would we want to listen to somebody like that when he can't even take care of his own organization. thank you. >> host: mr. kibbe? >> guest: we haven't filed for bankruptcy or anything like it. the fact of the matter is if you believe the government is good and if you believe like i do that the government should perform certain functions you have to come to the terms with the fact that we can't keep spending money we don't have. now they just raise taxes you are going to undermine people's ability to find jobs. if you just keep spending money we don't have then we do crazy things like letting the federal reserve monetize that d

kramer, on behalf of our ceo jo-ann wallace who was former public defender of the district of columbia. we certainly understand the crisis in federal defense, as was the crisis at the state level. however, today i'm here on behalf of the thousands of attorneys and other advocates in the civil justice system dedicated to ensuring our democratic principle of equal justice under the law. my colleagues across the nation work every day, often at significant personal sacrifice, to make that principle of equal justice our reality for low-income families in communities in every corner of the nation. i wanted to briefly today discussed to areas of federal spending and which the impact of sequestration and the government shut down might well have a significant impact on the provision of civil legal assistance to people living in poverty in the united states. those two areas, the first one i want to discuss is funding for the legal services corporation. with respect to lse, the one in 34 grantees of lsc's funding represent the nations promised to justice to millions of americans. analysts see as

jo >> i don't think anything would quite honestly because i think what i like with the book is to be able to start on page one ann not know what's going to happen you can do that on watt pad but i also rewrite a lot so where would we be when we're going along to maybe chapter and then i started rewriting chapter two. >> rose: but you get to the end before youry write? >> no, it's a rolling barrage. i rewrite as i go along. >> rose: if you get to chapter 10 that you won't go back and refix two? >> i might. >> rose: oh so you may be do both. it's always going on at once. >> rose: see i would think there would be easier -- just me. just sort of work back so i want to end up here and have them take this route, this route, this route. this is what's so exciting about what you do. before i get them there i want them to be here and then you can sort of figure out all the things and you can put things in chapter two that we may not take note of by what happens in chapter 5 we see how relevant it was that chance meeting >> edgar allen poe said famously that mystery stories are written backwards. which they have to be. bec