you want to show off what you created on your own, not necessarily what somebody who has a design degree for jo ann'serence. i want them to make sure -- deirdre: oliver, who is baking cupcakes every weekend -- >> every weeknight. [laughter] i think what scotty just said is critical when you look at these types of companies is how are they monetizing what they do. if pinterest has a model and there's private equity guys -- and they're pretty smart, generally, they don't like to overpay -- that are willing to put a price on the company at $11 billion, then it may well be worth that. deirdre: and it's also worth pointing out that some other social sites are actually valued higher. we spoke to about snapchat, all of a sudden pinterest at 11 -- >> and, you know, you asked the question before is there a tech bubble brewing, and the answer in short is, no, probably not, because an awful lot of these companies in the nasdaq and the tech companies are making money. >> i agree with that, ol o very. >> that's important to understand. >> i agree with that. and, you know, these companies are coming out of the gat