jo blanden, he is not the details. jo blanden, he is not the first labour _ the details. first labour leader to put - the first labour leader to put education at the heart of what the medication wants to achieve, 20 player made that claim for education many years ago but the life chances of people haven't significantly improved if they come from a poor socio— economic background, have they? why is it, do you think? i think things are moving in a slightly better direction, certainly since the pandemic we seen things get worse. their ac here is the differences start when children are young and you can see differences in the amount of work children have at age three, depending on their social background. we need action on the way through children's lives to make sure they're not living in poverty, they have access to high—quality nursery care, and then good teachers and schools. teacher recruitment is and schools. teacher recruitment is a huge issue at the moment so hopefully we'll see some movement on that as we get more idea of what the opposition is planning. he that as w