. — other mp who died within the past five years, jo cox, and he spoke incredibly— five years, jo coxngly about how of course _ incredibly movingly about how of course there should be more security, _ course there should be more security, but at the end of the day, you do— security, but at the end of the day, you do not— security, but at the end of the day, you do not want our mps to be behind barricades _ you do not want our mps to be behind barricades. the truth is, as we always— barricades. the truth is, as we always say, _ barricades. the truth is, as we always say, there is no such thing as total— always say, there is no such thing as total security. getting that balance — as total security. getting that balance better is what we have to be about, _ balance better is what we have to be about, but _ balance better is what we have to be about, but is the actual prevents programme working? clearly not. i 'ust programme working? clearly not. just want to programme working? clearly not. i just want to come back to you for this. you wear a minister. how safe did you feel?— did you feel

donnison, thank you very much indeed- _ sir david amess' death came five years after the labour mp, jo cox family are going through now and i am sure your thoughts are with them? yes. going through now and i am sure your thoughts are with them?— thoughts are with them? yes, good mone . thoughts are with them? yes, good money- my — thoughts are with them? yes, good money. my thoughts _ thoughts are with them? yes, good money. my thoughts are _ thoughts are with them? yes, good money. my thoughts are very i thoughts are with them? yes, good money. my thoughts are very much| money. my thoughts are very much with the family of sir david, his friends, his constituents and his staff and sadly, the witnesses who were there on that horrific day. i hope yesterday provides them with a way to move on to the next chapter of their lives, but it will have been an horrific few weeks, and they are very much in my thoughts today. when your sisterjo was murdered, we all said this can never happen again, surely this will never happen again, surely this will never happen again, but here we are. can you believ