joal jama, i'd like to um continue with you now and get uh your idea about how one guest indicated a phrase that i think really spells out what needs to be um put into action, his the phrase that he used was defining moment, if you believe jamal that this is the defining moments, what actions need to be taken uh, you usually when there's a war in the past, there have been meetings, their analysts come on tv, they say what they say, and then there's some kind of... deal that's being made, but this, i'm guessing is not going to be the case anymore, if this is defining moment, what action needs to be taken in order to make sure that palestinians get what they deserve, or at least have the hope that these are the types of steps that will be taken in order for reach in order for them to reach their ultimate goal? yeah, first of all, i think the first thing that we need is to stop this, this massacres and the crimes and the palestinians for for one time in their life to feel safe, this is. the first thing, the second thing is the right of the palestinians that they are struggling for since