my mother was, joan carpenter cashin took me to a sick and i was four months old, she gets herself arrested with me in her arms, and of that event was a turning point in the movement in huntsville alabama and within a few months they had negotiated in non-violent accommodation in huntsville. two years before the civil rights act, before the water hose in birmingham -- >> did it help that johnsonville was an educated city in northern alabama, did that make a difference? >> what helped more than anything is that huntsville tied itself to the space industry and what he was already there come a lot of scientists had to send a doll alabama and the city wanted to disassociate themselves from the rest of the state and that helped them to negotiate this quietly. so from the beginning i have memories of my parents as civil rights activists and after the voting civil rights act passed then they turned to politics and a group looking stamps, the was the national democratic party to revive memories my father ran for governor against george wallace in 1970 and i have these memories of my summer being ta

my mother, joan carpenter cashin took me with her in her arms to assist in in april of 1957. i was four months old. she gets herself arrested with me in her arms. and that event was a turning point in this in movement and hence will, alabama. and within a few months of that event initiated a nonviolence desegregation of public accommodation from vons will. twenty-four years -- two full years before the civil rights act, before the water hoses in birmingham. >> host: did it help that hon still had -- was an educated city, it was in northern alabama, did that make a difference is? >> guest: what helped more than anything was that house bill had tied its fate to this space industry. there were, you know, werner von braun was already there. a lot of people to have a lot of engineers and scientists had descended on alabama. and the city wanted to disassociate themselves from the rabid race imagery of the rest of the state, and that helped them. you know, they negotiated this quietly. so, yes. from the beginning i have memories. my parents were civil rights activists. after the of