joan donoghue, welcome to hardtalk. happy to be here.ou sat on the international court ofjustice for pretty much 14 years. the last three years as president of the court. one of your last cases was the case brought by south africa against israel on the basis of genocide in gaza. were you aware of the scale of international scrutiny on that particular case? yes, absolutely. it was very clear. and in particular, or, for example, outside of the peace palace, where the court sits, there were two groups of demonstrators, or interested people, and one of them had a big jumbotron set up outside so that the participants there could watch what was going on inside. and we were aware of people around the world watching the delivery of the order. do you feel the pressure in that situation? i wouldn't say that i felt pressure but i felt that the delivery of the order itself would be something that would matter, including in the way i delivered it to regular people, notjust to international law experts or to the people who were in the room with me. th

today i have an exclusive interview with joan donoghue, thejust—retired president of the icj, who deliverednternational justice is on trial.