joan donovan's methodology, specifically with respect to facebook. leadership was taken cues from meta and acting on behalf of matt's best interest, and compared medals behavior to big tobacco oil and gas, and big pharma, each of which manipulated institutions into producing research products that supported their respective industries. >> this field is being run by tech -- who believe that academic research should be a wink of their pr. >> moderna has long pushed back against resourced blames the company for harming society, but the company did not comment for this story. harvard told cnn in a statement, allegations of unfair treatment and donor interference are false. the narrative is full of inaccuracies and faceless intuitions particularly the suggesting that harvard county school allowed facebook to dictate its approach the research. the spokesperson said the facebook leaked document projects ended up going ahead of the universities work on online disinformation, continues. but, joan donovan said harvard has damaged its credibility. >> it is gutt

in a whistle blower disclosure, joan donovan acknowledges meadows growing influence with the university dollar pledge from the nonprofit organization started by mark zuckerberg himself went to her exit. donovan's been an outspoken voice in the world of disinformation often pointing out how, internet companies, profit from this. a harvard kennedy school denies the claim, saying the doctors claims of unfair treatment and donor interference are false. the university also said it is a long-standing policy that research projects are led by faculty members which donovan was not. the faculty member leading the project left harvard, they were unable to find a replacement and the program was and it. the school also said she was not fired. with us for more joan donovan herself, currently a professor at boston university as one of the world's experts for leading internet disinformation. she wrote the book meme wars, -- joan i welcome you back, i wish it was on better news. what do you think about harvard's response, what do you want people to know? >> well, you lead with their disclaimer, but they