a piano and other opulent things and had tremendous parties there >> host: the last one, the ray joan kroc corp community center. >> guest: you mention before that joan left $2 billion to salvation army and posthumously. before she died she built a sort of teaser kroc community center in san diego, in a poor neighborhood, and the story behind why i woken tell you right now but a she -- i won't tell you right now but she built a beautiful -- funded a beautiful 80 million decide recreation center, and in her will she left this bequest to salvation army to replicate they center in as many places across the country they could and fittingly one of them is here on the south side of chicago and if you have not been, you have to see it, they're all spectacular. state-of-the-art facilities, low cost to low income people in the neighborhood they're transformative in the neighborhoods as both recreation centers and community centers, and it's quite a legacy that she left, and interestingly, it's the only gift that she lift posthumously that had ray's name in it. so interesting. >> host: that is inter

one more author will be peeking, it's lisa napoli think author of ray and joan, about the life othe late mcdonald's founder, ray kroc and his wife, joan. we'll be right back. [inaudible question] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] >> i'm following the book from the beginning where lincoln to the theology in favor of slavery. southern theologians. >> his father i believe was a baptist minister -- >> wasn't a minister. he was -- belonged to various primitive baptist churches in kentucky and indiana. >> hi father was -- from my understanding was very antislavery as well. >> he was. >> my rex is that is why they moved from kentucky, first for indiana and then illinois. >> that's right. places where poor white people moved from. that's a story of the family, of his father. >> brian. >> your book to the stack -- >> big towers. the interpretation center. i was out there about a month ago two months ago. quite the stack of books, i tell you that. thank you very much. >> thank you