joann litman has been thinking about just that. she wrote a great piece about it for "time."he is the former editor in chief of "usa today," and she joins me now. joann, before the pandemic we had a sort of system of work that we took for granted and assumed had kind of always been around. but you point out that came out of a particular historical moment and period. >> that's right, so if you look at the workplace where we live right now, it actually dates back to world war ii. so the guys coming home from the front recreated essentially a military hierarchy, so the modern office place was actually created by a bunch of guys who created a very strictly heirarchical work force that assumed you had to be there all the time, eight hours a day. and there was also an assumption that there was somebody at home, a wife, who was going to take care of the rest of your life. the entire workplace has changed. we're in a digital society, a global work force where we're working with people across time zones, we're working virtually. and yet -- and we're in a service economy. and yet we ar