jackson, who is at george washington carver, sitting over there next to joanna belcher who shared, who was the principal of spark and who -- and they shared a building together and had one of the best, most collaborative relationships i've ever seen educators have. and i think that, and i think that's a model. i don't think it's the only model, but i do think that steps have been taken. and i think that whether it's when you talk about community schools, for instance, a lot of the tenets of community schools, empowering educators, getting them resources and connecting the schools to the families in meaningful ways, those are things that a lot of charter schools do too, and that's a natural place where we can learn from each other as those start up. and so, so i don't know what the very next step is, but i think those are some ways we can do it. >> anyone else want to comment? >> i think, again, i go back to my fist reflection is -- first reflection is what can we learn from this opportunity of having the last four years captured in the book. so, one, i would encourage everyone and thos