>> joanna bradstone, she has worked really hard to work her way out of that. she's very shrewd. >> larry: she's the most successful of the group? >> she's very successful and she'll do anything to stay away from that life. she won't have anything to do with it whatsoever. her color is red. she's very fierce and she has no room for niceties. she's a kind of a bitch. >> larry: do you like her or not like her? >> i like her very much. >> larry: is this a comedy? >> no. >> larry: not at all? >> everyone's been talking about how intense it is. >> larry: when you saw the play, did you think of yourself as joe? >> no, i was just enjoying watching these women in this play who did an incredible job. and jasmine guy who actually had directed the play, the production that i saw. no, i didn't at all. i didn't see my -- >> larry: so when he said he wanted you for it, did you think jo would be the part? >> i didn't know what part he wanted me to play. so when he actually called me up and said the script is coming along and told me a little bit about my character, i thought,