as joanna hatch. she is on the board of directors from mother's milk alliance, the community milk sharing organization. joanna, thanks so much for joining us today. let me start by asking you will. these 2 moves by president biden actually help alleviate the shortage. thanks so much for having me on today, and i hope wholeheartedly that these 2 actions by president biden will help alleviate the shortage because we know that families vocally in our community and throughout the last are really struggling to find safe on safe, appropriate ways to feed their babies during this formula shortage. joanna invoking the defense production act and ordering the defense department to use military aircraft to import formula from overseas are these short term solutions and if so, what's the long term answer? these are short term solutions and short term solutions are necessary to help families that are in crisis right now. i think both for myself and for the organization that i'm a part of my there's not alliance whi

well, joanna hatch is on the board of directors for the mother's milk alliance, not to community milk sharing organization. she says women need support and breast feeding, and if that doesn't work and other option is there native milk, these are short term solutions and short term solutions are necessary to help families that are in crisis right now. i think for myself and for the organization that i'm a part of mothers milk alliance which supports facilitated donor milk sharing in our community. the long term solution also has to be creating sustainable systems for families to be able to have the support they need to establish breastfeeding, to have time to be with their babies, to continue breastfeeding. and then when breastfeeding doesn't work to have safe alternatives, including donor milk, and as the supply of baby organization here in madison, wisconsin provides an alternative formula, supplementation for some families. so donor milk is an option for families who are facing or a shortage of formula for organizations like ours, we facilitate sharing in the community. so we connec