that more people will be proud of her and her decisions than probably know that today. >> rick: joanne epps, the dean of the beasley school of law, at temple university, in philadelphia, dean epps, thank you so much for your time this morning, we appreciate it. >> thanks for having me. >> jamie: we wanted to tell you about a great program going on in southern california. the border patrol's explorer's program does more than teach the young volunteers who sign up how to take fingerprint and mug shots, it actually gives these teens real world training, to prepare them for life as law enforcement officers. and casey steegel is live at the u.s.-mexico border with the latest on that. hi, i didn't see you pick up a uniform or anything, did you see them in action? >> reporter: yeah, we did get to see them in action and it is a very cool program, nice to see you, jamie. you know, it is one of the most difficult and dangerous jobs in the country. and that is protecting america is a borders and would you believe it takes 20,000 u.s. border patrol agents to monitor what is coming in and out of the cou

. >> rick: and talk to someone who testified at sotomayor's confirmation hearings, judge joanne epps will join us when we come right back. don't go away!