we started, dt ran an rfp process to come on as consultant to help to guide us and ctc run by joanne hovis who is nationally recognized broadband expert and testified in the senate on this issue and have been intimately involved in a number of municipal fiber project. her firm along with img rebel, who are financial experts i think came in as the lowest bid. they helped to put together a series of reports. at that juncture dt was part of the project and we were certainly at the tane and watched as they helped the city over time to consider the difficult and complex technical and financial trade-offs in assessing some of these larger question. i think there was a really great powerpoint that synthesized a lot of work that's been done over the past two year. i think an important part of that has been getting a handle on what the problem is in san francisco. >> what is the problem? >>speaker: california emerging technology fund identifies that cost statewide is the biggest barrier to access. in my own personal experience living in bay view, i think you do see folks outside of the library befo