jodie ginsberg. jodi. good to have you on you hear me? okay, now. i can okay. great russia's track record here on cases like this is reprehensible . it has a history of manufacturing charges, trumping them up based on what we know here is gerst covic, a hostage. is this a deliberate russian operation in effect to create a bargaining chip? it's really difficult to say at this stage. what we can say is it's a really serious escalation in the kinds of attacks that we've seen over the past year against journalists and against independent reporting in russia since the full scale invasion of ukraine, and indeed, of course of the oppression of journalists and journalism that we've seen under vladimir putin for many years. and jodie i. the kremlin has said that foreign journalists can keep working there that they're safe. you believe that to be true? we have very little confidence that that's the case. as we see a reporter who is a reporter for the wall street journal, whom the journal have come out very strongly in defense of has been detained on spying charges. and t