back to jody lawrence turner. jody, was summer nelson ever married?w if she ever had representation with men her own age? >> i do not know that. >> all right. because cooper, sometimes we see in this that someone 28, 29, as we have seen in the past, find out they're married with a couple kids, and yet they're shacking up with some 13 or 14-year-old. what leads to this, cooper? i mean, you're talking about mental disorders. what else from the past can lead to this? >> well, a lot of hebophiles and pedestrian owe files have been abused as a child. i'm a child. i'm not making an excuse, but trying to explain where the behavior stems from. >> how about the little ones, the younger sister and brother who heard the story and heard -- what kind of damage could they be suffering here? >> i think it would cause a lot of anxiety in children that young. because now they're going to learn that you can't trust that somebody that seems -- look at the picture, she doesn't look like the creepy pedophile we see in the movies. it's very disarming for a child because th

jodie lawrence-turner, thank you for your reporting.lways good for talking to you. >> thanks, mike. >> from that to this. first we see john goss lyn on a yacht in the french rivera with his 22-year-old girlfriend. he has a kid back home. now there is a report he's engaged. and she's got a $180,000 engagement ring! nice move, john!

jody lawrence turner, thank you for your reporting. cooper, always good to talk to you. >>> coming up, retail sales up in the month of june. is that a good thing? good news in a bad economy or not? we'll welcome back ali velshi, she is a correspondent for cnn. we are also taking your personal financial questions. get to the phones, 1-877-tell-hln. >>> it is time for our making sense segment. your personal financial questions on tap answered by the expert ali velshi. you can call us, 1-877-tell-hln. e-mail us, text us as well. by the way, the website is cnn.com/primenews. you know her, it is ali velshi. she is author of the book "give me my money back." ali, good to have you back. let's hit on the news item of the day. june retail sales up. is that the good news in the bad economy we like to talk about or not? >> well, it is mixed news. this is one of the benefits of being on the show and finding out what's going on out there because some people believe it is good news. it is not really. this is a government survey of everything that is