>> the book was dedicated to jody powell, like my own son, who helped me be and become president so itook to them, but, yes, times change and people go on, and i think -- one thing i would like to remind the readers of this book, although it's very controversial and critical comments in there by me and them, the book was written 30 years ago, and times have changed, and i changed my opinion about a lot of people. >> larry: read it with that. >> it's an absolutely frank, honest, undisturbed, unmodified, i didn't change a single sentence meaning in the book about what it means to be president and to point out 30 or 40 things in the book, really, that i had to address that were very serious to me that obama is having to address today. >> larry: frank sinatra told me the sad thing about aging is your friends are gone. >> that's exactly right, yeah. that's true. >> larry: is it the same with you? >> it's sad, of course, and every year it seems like more and more of them, you know, pass away. some of those much earlier than they should have, like jody and hamilton, you know, who were a gener

"to the memory of my chief of staff, hamilton jordon, and my press secretary jodi powell." who would have ever believed... >> rose: i know. >>. >> rose: ever believed. >> i know. they were just like my own sons. about the age of my oldest sons and they were the ones that were the cause of my being elected governor, serving as governor, being elected president, serving as president. outstanding young men who just passed away prematurely. it's a great loss to me, i think to the country. >> rose: what comes out of this selection that i chose from leslie's conversation is it will notion of what you accomplished. the yet in some places it's considered a fled presidency. why is that? >> i think the failed presidency comes from the fact that i wasn't reelected. that's the kind of crucial measure of whether you have a success or snot whether you are chosen for a second term or not. and i never have felt discouraged or disappointed when i look back at those four years of excitement and challenge and many successes, some failures. so i feel at ease with what we did. and i think the s