i am jon miller and joe morgan and steve phillips, happy birthday, joe, yesterday. sunday night baseball and those old school rivals, the cubs and cardinals, battling one another from the cities of st. louis and chicago since the 19th century. and lou piniella has his become out again. -- his book out again. maybe it's tony la russa's book. what is he gonna do next? >> steve: he has made so many moves, it's got to be somewhere in the book. >> jon: 3-3, the score in the ninth. the cardinals getting close to wrapping up the central dition. -- division. and that one goes right by yadier molina. on ball four to fukudome. so with two down and nobody on, reyes has walked two in a row. and now fuld, a left-hander, is due up. piniella doesn't have that many able-bodieded players to go to at this point. and maybe why go to somebody? why not keep reyes in the game? >> steve: duncan will have a conversation. you send the pitching coach out to fix this guy. and duncan, an outstanding pitching coach out to talk to him and you look at the cardinals as they look ahead to the play-

two passes in that drive that didn't look like ryan mallett knew where joe adams was going to be or joe adams didn't know where the ball was going to do be. they had not looked like that all night but here in a critical possession, they didn't look too good. >> brad: dylan breeding doesn't even have the kien of room he'd like right now as you look behind him, almost stepping out of his own end line to punt. logan gray, all georgia wants to do is get a sure-handed guy to make a fair catch. >> referee: deleif game, kicking team, half the distance to the goal, fourth down. >> brad: now he's really running out of rel estate. >> todd: back to the punt by butler that set them back. great punt and georgia defense feeling they had them backed up, got the sack and boy, this has been tough for arkansas right here. >> brad: brandon boykin was special teeps player of the week last week, drew butler might be this week for georgia with those three booming punts especially in the last one and here's a georgia bounce on the punt for arkansas and georgia's got it inside the arkansas 30 with 4:19 to go.

david, joe wilson.se his opponents raised $700,000. >> it's not an actual hostage tape. >> i think if you pull it back, you'll see people holding guns. he has a gun to his political head. has this unknown south carolina governor, eclipsed a health care speech? >> well i think a couple of things. one, i think the white house would be happy if joe wilson becomes the face of the republican argument on health care. because it will make their job easier if they want to paint the republicans as obstructionists, which is clearly the direction that they want to go. on the other hand, the fact that there's been so much time spent on congressman wilson and what he's had to say, the issue he's trying to highlight gets away from two central points that the white house wants to emphasize every day and barnicle brought it up just a moment ago. which is, they've got to emphasize to the middle of the road americans politically. that this plan can be paid for. and if you've got insurance, it's actually going to improve

welcome to the joe scarborough show. we're in seattle. >> really, the joe scarborough show?ayed up too late drinking with tommy lasorda last night. >> tired. >> we've got a lot to talk about. >> did you hear him talking about our radio show? >> he's a huge fan, listens every day on kabc. anyway, we've got a lot to talk about today. jimmy carter once again bringing up the race issue yesterday. >> yep. >> the white house -- and you're going to see the clip -- doing what the white house always does, trying to keep race out of the discussion. they are not race baiting at all, even if some of his supporters are and some of their opponents on the far right are. and pat buchanan, i think the news of most import, the baucus bill is released and savaged by all sides. but as mark leibovich of "the new york times" said last hour, i'm not so sure that's a bad thing for the president. at least get the discussion started with some real specifics. >> sure. this is what was going to happen as soon as he got to the specifics. as i said in the last hour, joe, i do think health care is in a li

now, i was just joe wilson -- i was just joe wilson.dent's speech. in effect, joe wilson has become such a big part of the story, pat? >> yeah, you don't do that as a quasi state of the union where the president is there. that's embarrassing. and people say, okay, joe did wrong. but you people are not taking him out. the democrats are saying we are going to haul him up before the house and make him apologize? >> let me stop you there, pat. last week i mocked democrats that said they wanted to censor this guy. and he is a friend of mine. a soft spoken guy, and a guy i like. his kids serve this country. and peggy, here is my concern, he made a million dollars in his campaign by telling the president he is a liar. he has become a hero of a lot of people on the right. he now encourages, a democrat, the next time a republican is in charge to do the same thing. raise a million dollars. i am starting to wonder whether the house should censor this guy just on to send a message. not to joe wilson, but to republicans -- >> but to everybody else?

he heard talk radio and it reminded him of rap music. >> joe is out in san francisco. joe?re not able to -- well, haven't we moved yaurnd the shock of a great economic town turn a year ago. and now americans are saying watch the deficits and watch the debt, and washington don't grow too big too fast. >> i know that i have seen this on the program before, whether barack obama wants to be franklin roosevelt or lyndon johnson, johnson wanted to remake society, and we are looking at early new deal times, and it's hard to know just how many directions president obama thinks he can move in at once. >> what book in the book review are you recommending this weekend? >> well, a fascinating book that really raises the question if whether the untapped resource might be woman, and that women could transform the economy. >> "half the sky" is the book. >> thank you. >>> dylan ratigan, next. in your hands... knees... and back. for little bodies with fevers.. and big bodies on high blood pressure medicine. tylenol works with your body... in a way other pain relievers don't... so you feel b

does that mean joe wilson is going to lose?s. >> give me that name again. >> ellen tinklenburg. >> that's a fabulous minnesota name. >> i love it. state senator. >> chris cillizza, john o'connor. thanks very much. we appreciate it. >>> up next -- back to health care. could bill clinton be president obama's secret weapon to keep the democrats in line when it comes time for a vote? "politics fix" is next. this is "hardball" only on msnbc. i run my own business. and some days this place gets a little out of control. getting clients in the door and keeping them off the floor, it is a little stressful. announcer: introducing nature made heart and stress defense fish oil. all the benefits of fish oil, with super strength omega 3 epa, which may protect your heart against some of the risks of stress caused by mood. life's an adventure, right? learn more at naturemade.com. new heart and stress defense fish oil, now available at walgreen's. nature made. fuel your greatness. geico's been saving people money and who doesn't want value for

joe scarborough is with us. kelly o'donnell on the hill and we start off with the chief white house correspondent, chuck todd. chuck, good evening. >> reporter: good evening. last night was the easy part for the president. today, began the hard part, turning words into action. the president delivered a stripped down version of his pitch for health care to a gathering of nurses, arguing his plan would improve those with health insurance and cut costs for everyone. >> as folks go about their every day lives, one thing they won't have to worry about as much is health care. >> reporter: as the president acknowledged -- >> there remains significant details to be ironed out. i believe -- >> reporter: the biggest detail how to construction a government program, a public option that appeased the democrats but doesn't chase them off. >> it would be one option among any. no one is forced to choose it. >> reporter: the televised speech had an e fekt. there was flexibility for each side. i don't think you go into a negotiat

joe is a good and honest man. he's the kind of person who, if he disagrees with you, does it without being disagreeable. just as it was wrong for my democrat colleagues to boo former president bush in this chamber, it was wrong for joe wilson to speak out of turn. the difference is that joe wilson apologized and the president very graciously accepted his apology. every member in this chamber has uttered words they wish they could have said differently. i know joe made this comment out of frustration because there seems to be a large gap between health care rhetoric and reality. what the president said did not match up with the bill that came before the house. this is the same bill that was discussed last month in many town hall meetings across our country. his comments provided americans with an opportunity to discuss the differences between the bill they've seen and the ideas that the president mentioned on wednesday's speech. on the issue of illegal immigrants in health care reform, in three committees here in t

joe wilson had strep throat?e trying to figure out if the speech actually moved the public or moved those members of congress. because as you certainly recall, mike, it was a pretty rough august season for obama and health care reform, and the whole idea behind that joint address to congress last night was to try to change the dynamic and shift the agenda. the other thing that, frankly, i've been doing all day today is trying to ask more about what exactly is this $900 billion obama plan that he now is calling his plan? >> roger, what do you think we'd be doing? >> i think ceci's exactly right. i think the first question he would have gotten after that cabinet meeting -- in fact it's the only question he got -- is how are you really going to pay for this thing? now that we're in the after-glow period of a very emotional and elegant speech, there are some hard questions left unanswered. he has promised to have a $900 billion plan that doesn't add a dime to the deficit and apparently will not raise anybody's taxes.

that's the reality, and like i say, i'm not surprised as representative joe wilson. he fits right into the main stream of the modern republican party and no one should be shocked about this. >> what do you think? is there to be a legislation, a bill that the president can sign by thanksgiving, terry. >> i think so. >> i think that's likely because they have got the votes, let's face it, they have got more than -- >> they don't necessarily have 60 votes in the senate if there's going to be a filibuster. >> but they're close and they only need to pick off one or two republicans in the senate to make it complete. but when it comes to process and when it comes to offering policies that can achieve a broad consensus across both party lines, it's been a facade, it hasn't been how they operated. rahm emanuel is going to force a bill through this congress by whatever means necessary. take advantage of the crisis, as he's called it and we're going to see a democratic bill, but it's not going to be very popular with the american people. >> the american people will have a chanc

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it was joe wilson's response. again, joe wilson, this morning, he was the number one search on google. he will define thepeech for the republican party. while the base may love it and rsh limbaugh may say it's great, it's one more example of this republican party being seen as the party that lacks temperment. barack obama, they gave him a chance to rise above the level and be gracious an forgive the publicans and joe wilson. it's not good politics. >> i just did a search. three of the four biggest papers the lead story isn't health care. it's the president accepts the apology from a republican congressman. not what they wanted. anything else at work? there was whispered questions, was race a part of it? this was a boisterous gop section of the house. >> what's interesting, joe wilson, i served with him. he always seemedike a great guy. he is a great guy. i was surprised he was angry to that degree. for him to stand-up, and you see that still shot of him and pointing and yelling. it shows just how angry, not only r

joe?> thanks very much, kimberly. >>> one sth carolina congressman says he is now sorry for heckling president obama last night. >> the reforms i'm proposing would not apply to those who are here illegally. >> you lie. >> not true. >> that was republican joe wilson shouting, "you lie," at the president. wilson apologized after the speech and claims he let his emotions get the best of him. even some fellow republicans found the outburst inappropriate. senator john mccain called it, quote, totally disrespectful. >> breaking news this morning. an accident in leesburg has claimed a life overnight. it happened on route 7 near battlefield parkway. tracee wilkins is now on the scene with the latest. good morning. >> reporter: good morning, eun. this was an extraordinary accident. things are still unfolding here on the scene as police try to work outhe details for what happened here. but i can show you that right over there is where they're working, where right before the approach to route 15. we'

joe cox trying to change that. going deep, got a man.uchdown. >> todd: oh, man. >> brad: orson charles, back-to-back catches, nobody home in the middle of the field, joe cox has thrown his fourth touchdown pass. >> todd: orson charles has caught two passes on basically exact same route, working against terrell williams, true freshman linebackerer, jerry franklin kicked out earlier for the flagrant penalties and his replacement, true freshman just gave up a big touchdown. >> brad: 40-35 with a two-point attempt by georgia upcoming again. moob is down, a.j. green in tight on a wing. always have to know where 8 and 82 are. and branden smith is in there as well. >> referee: prior to the snap, deleif game, on the offense, five-yard penalty, replay. >> brad: every time they try to go for a two-point conversion something goes haywire. the 11th penalty against georgia. and this time they're going to stay determined to the cause and try to get the two-pointer from the 8 yard line. remember last time they had a holding call, this time just a false

>> i would stand with joe wilson on this.the right time, as quickly as he could get off the floor, pick up the phone and call the white house, i understand he made that apology to drag this out any further or put congressman joe wilson, this officer and gentleman on a national contrition tour, like trent lott went on, would be a huge mistake for the country, a mistake for democrats to bring it up, as a matter of fact. >> in your letter you sent out, congressman, you said you had heard the president declare prominent politicians to be liars in his speech, for disagreeing with him on health care. and he, the president, was pointsing out what he says were myths about the proposals out there, but if i can recall, he didn't say that there were liars amongst prominent politician and that's what you wrote in your letter. >> no i can say he said prominent politicians, they are lies, plain and simple and he was speaking specifically about the end of life panels. >> right. >> and he immediately followed with those who disagree with him

joe wilson's top ten excuses in the "hardball" side show. we'll begin with white house press secretary robert gibbs. sorry we didn't see you earlier today. we figured we would drag you out and make do you a mini version. >> i will end up in this room one way or the other, right? >> i want to play with you a familiar sound bite from the president wednesday night. let's take a listen. >> while there remains some significant details to be ironed out, i believe a broad consensus exists for the aspect of the plan i just outlined. consumer protections for those with insurance, an exchange that allows individuals and small businesses to purchase affordable coverage, and a requirement that people who can afford insurance get insurance. >> now robert, the president unveil his plan on wednesday. it is the president's plan. you have it on your website. white house.gov. it is only three and a half pages right now. and he talk about, we saw the details. when are we going to see the details? as you found out in july and august when there weren't details p

norah: joe? >> in afghanistan the bad news isn't just the widespread fraud in the election but that the nature of the fight has changed. the taliban are standing up and finding set piece battles. there was a nine-hour firefight the other day i'm told by military sources, which means that the taliban are we'll organized, we'll disciplined and very, very we'll armed. norah: lean? >> still on the afghanistan front. the afghanistan war has now passed vietnam as the longest war this country has ever been in and i think it's going to be going on for a few more years. >> there's been talk that justice john paul stevens may retire. i'm told by former clerks of his that by next spring he'll announce he's leaving which means barack obama will have research to do about somebody else to appoint. norah: when we come back, new doubts among democrats about doubling down in afghanistan. so will obama get more troops if he asks for them? norah: now the big question of the week, will president obama get more u.s.

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we ail know joe wilson. decent man, and to put him through this on the floor of the house i think is unacceptable and it is a partisan stunt. there's been behavior that's began on around here far more serious than this that didn't -- didn't bring a resolution to the floor to condemn someone's behavior. yes, people have made mistakes. some have come down to the floor and apologized. others have not, but none of it, none of it, required a resolution, and to think that t the precedent that is being set here today, the precedent, never has this happened before, that we're going to bring a resolution of disapproving of his behavior. my goodness, we can be doing this every day of the week. the american people sent us here to work together to solve the problems of our country. they didn't come here to talk about our behavior. they didn't send us here to do that. what they want us to do is to deal with the issue of health care. the president said we ought to work in a bipartisan fashion to get health care reform acc

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vice president joe biden is expected to attend. in washington, president barack obama will meet with family members of the dozens killed at the pentagon. former secretary of state colin powell will speak at a ceremony in western pennsylvania where one of the four hijacked jetliners crashed. the victims were honored by placing a congressional plaque in the east front lobbyist capitol. >> they will be reminded of the tragedy and triumph of the flight 93, the loss of life, but more than that, of the extraordinary acts of courage by the men and women on board. >> reporter: this is the first year september 11th has been declared a national day of service. americans planned beach cleanups, packages for soldiers and fund-raisers. now let's head over to linda so on how locals marked the anniversary. >> reporter: runners are starting to show up this morning. we're here at the corner of gay and fayette streets right in front of city hall. this is where the 5k run will get started in about an hour now. take a look because traffic will be an i

neither did joe wilson. that's why he apologized. now, after the apology, the charges are not just that it was out of line, no, no. now it is somehow or another joe wilson is transformed into a racist. the charge of racist is coming from everyone. jimmy carter is involved. jim, i sure miss you. this is so ridiculous that in america in 2009 we have a former president who says if you're opposed to the president's healthcare, you're racist. gosh, where did i hear that? oh, thank you. jimmy carter, and i heard that from jeremiah wright last week. let me ask you this -- do you know they banned the words hypocrite and liar in the house? you can't say those things? what is worse, being called a liar or a racist? maybe we should ask joe wilson, who now by some bizarre definition is a bigot, but before we ask him, maybe we should ask ourselves this question, because i don't think anybody is listening down there. i think the mainstream media and washington, they're just playing a little game. when did the accusation of someone telling a lie ha

>> country joe. country joe.untry joe, is scarborough suddenly going to call himself country joe if i do this? >> you'll just have to call joe. >> oh, you mean charles. what's going on? >>> schools will be playing host to the nation's commander in chief as he highlights the importance of setting goals in the televised speech. in response to some parents who have threatened to keep their kids home, the white house posted the speech online. they're hoping parents and schools will see that it contains no political rhetoric. surprisingly, the white house is getting support from former first lady laura bush who says it is, quote, very important to everyone to respect the president of the united states. >>> ted kennedy's nephew will be be running for his seat in the state senate. >>> finally, a fast food restaurant in asia has won a decision to call its mccurry. it serves traditional dishes including fish head curry. carl, they've been fighting this battle for eight years. why are you laughing? >> i saw you say fish he

michael jackson's father joe jackson, you know joe jackson, was at the mtv video music awards on sunday. they did a big tribute to his son and with all the attention paid to kanye west and taylor swift i feel like we missed joe showing up with an attractive young recording artist to a memorial tribute to his late son. so good guy. he's managing her, i guess. after the show, joe and taina sat down for a show on web tv. >> well, i co-wrote a lot of my songs. >> what told you that this one could be another superstar? >> well, that's a good question. the first thing that told me that taina was a super star, was hearing that she had a voice like jump rope. and she doesn't mind when i throw stuff at her. i can throw books, rocks, pomegranates, muskrats, banjos, everything. she loves it. i also get to have sex on her a lot. that's why she's all gonna be a super star. now go to bed, blankey. we have class at 6:00 a.m. >> wow. mr. jackson, thank you. >> thank you, mr. jackson. tell you what, i look forward to big things from both taina and tallinn tino. this is from the phillies game last night

i suspect if it had been a different joe wilson, the husband of the outed c.i.a.gent who, was a liberal hero and martyr in the previous administration, if he had been in the house and yelled "you liar" to president bush, the liberals would have carried him on their shoulders out of the hall as a hero speaking truth to power. nonetheless, even besides the hypocrisy, he shouldn't have done t he apologized. it is obviously a democratic stunt as a way to take attention away from the healthcare debate they are losing, and every day that they don't have to speak about the specifics of a plan, and the more it is examined, the more it loses support is a good day for the democrats, so this was a good afternoon for the democrats. bret: juan, several democratic lawmakers have found that south carolina congressman wilson's heckling of president obama was racist. they called it racist. maureen dowd wrote that she heard "you lie, boy," and what she heard out of that remark during the speech. what about that issue of racism in opposition to the president's policies? >> i don't t

joe is all tick off.k todd told one gerald ford joke after another. it was the most highly inappropriate thing i'd ever seen. >> you did not say that. poor chuck. >> he would say we're looking at a president who wowed the nation. and then he'd bang his head and laugh and do the whole chevy chase thing. >> nbc news political director chuck todd. all of which what joe said is not true. >> i think the problem was we had chevy chase doing our coverage. not helpful. >> anything to get ratings. >> what are you going to do? so let's set the scene at home you've been talking about this morning. >> chuck, take a look at these numbers. looks like a majority of independents are disapproving of the way the president is doing things. i would take it it has a lot to do with the healthcare debate. how at this point is the president going to get out the message? i know he has plans to do that, but it seems extremely muddled and seems like he's losing the very people you would think would stay with him. >> not just stay o

the gop's civility crisis, as joe wilson goes -- >> you lie! >> so goes the crackpot faithful. >> last night we heard our president address this country. >> clarence page on the political ramifications as the republican party continues to careen off the tracks. and melissa lacewell on how our political discourse came to this. >>> also, the art of turning "i'm sorry" into "send cash." >> go to joewilsonforcongress.com and contribute to my efforts to defeat the proponents of government-run health care. >> it takes a much better actor than joe wilson to get away with faking sincerity. fighting health care reform at all costs. if it finally passes and becomes law, governor tim pawlenty of minnesota says his state still might not stand for it. >> depending on what the federal government comes out with here, asserting the tenth amendment may be a viable option. >> what do the tenthers have against people with pre-existing conditions? >>> the war in afghanistan. eight years to the day after the attack on our soil that provoked it. prominent democrats

i wanted to know if there was any worry about a soft more jinx with joe. >> no, come on. >> joe is so cool. even in his interviews. i don't believe it is. >> that coolness he's got he is like extra laid back. that's where the coolness comes from. >> can you be too laid back? >> possibly, one thing i did notice he had all kinds of time the o line did the job sunday. >> no doubt. >> you look like an o lineman yourself. from houston texas. i'm a baltimore raven recently located here. question for the defense. >> got a texan sitting right here. question for the defense, would you guy having ray louis signing that contact extension to come back and ed reed, how do you feel about the defense? they look outstanding. are you am ped for a am ped for? >> he is more than a player. he is the heart and soul and spiritual leered. there's a leader in general of the baltimore ravens if you will. for him resigning here was huge i'm sure that played a role in it. our guys on defense, they make it them. the defense is who -- that's what they live. that's what they breathe every time i step on the field

in brief form, joe b. where would you invest? >> our balance of accounts are 50% in fixed income and defensive income in 50% in equities. a bigger exposure overseas than we had earlier in the year and we're focused on large, medium and small-capped stock as an opportunity. on the bond side, we're going into the corporates which is better and we have a 5% stake in gold because fiscal imbalance and currency imbalances are going to be problematic for sometime to come. >> good stuff. bob? where do you put your money? >> i agree with joe in some respects. i think a maybe 70/30 split in equity. more in equity. i don't like the treasury at all you want to be in corporates. i want to be in technology. i think the business cycle the telling us that technology has legs. i love financials. i'm telling you, that's going to be the big surprise. m & a will continue and the yield curve will play to their sweet spot but i like the consumer. this consume her aawake. you want a little bit there. i think that will be the big surprise of the fourth

>> joe johns reporting. joe, thanks. a lot more to talk about in washington and across the country. let's send it to wolf blitzer. >> thanks very much. with president obama working on democrats, republican leaders were trying to get past the job of the joe wilson flap. they were trying to fire up their own trips. they and the conservative groups rallying on capitol hill. joe wilson, by the way, was not in attendance. the house minority whip speaking and hearing from wilson supporters. listen to this. >> last night we heard our president address this country. >> boo! >> we were listening for specifics. we were listening to hear something new. and we did not hear that. >> let's get more with candy crowley and rolin martin and mike williams. he is direct dwror of the polit action committee, our country deserves better. do you share the opinion expressed by congressman joe wilson? >> absolutely. and so many people do. they also share his frustration and his anger. if he did anything wrong, he was the venue. that i have to give him a slap on the wrist for. but he absolutely spoke the tru

you go, joe, finally someone isn't afraid to stand up. joe wilson did nothing wrong.he said what a lot of people were thinking. i only wish more had stood up and given us a voice to. that point, michelle, i think sherry said it, there is a time and place to argue and debate the president in the middle of a speech not the time to do it. let's listen real quick to president obama, here's his comments after what happened and after the apology. >> yes, i -- yes, i do. i'm a big believer that we all make mistakes. he apologized and i'm appreciative of that. >> i want to get you both in on this. you know, you can argue and debate the president. what joe wilson did, i think, hurts republicans who want to battle on health care. maria, i'll get your thoughts, and sherry, you follow. >> i think that's absolutely right, mike. i think it takes away their credibility. i think it also does one other thing, which we have seen in the donations of congressman wilson's opponent in south carolina. this guy has raised tens of thousands of dollars since last night. it has unified democrat

joe? >> with all the talk about swine flu, health officials don't want you to lose sight of the traditional flu season. doctors at the centers for disease control and department of health and human services are encouraging you to get a seasonal flu shot in addition to the wine flu vaccine. they emphasize that the seasonal flu can be very dangerous. >> every year approximately 200,000 americans are hospitalized with seasonal flu. every year, about 36,000 americans die so this is a serious disease. >> seasonal flu shots are available right now, but you'll have to wait for the h1n1 flu vaccine. that's the swine flu vaccine. it's not it's not expted to e be o untilometime next month. >>> now on to the swine flu. health officials say that swine flu can survive on surfacese anywhere from two to eight hours. that's why local officials say they will clean more frequently. metro officials tell u they will now clean buses and train twice a week. >>> firefighters are turning into primary care provide

joe watkins, a republican strategist. gentlemen, i'm going to give you multiple chase here to open this up. a, b, c and d. "a" the reason they are not able to raise the money they want to, is, we won. "b" we're in a rut. people don't have the kind of excess cash to spend they did a year ago. "c" a bunch of wall street rich people who contributed to obama, oh, he's new, great, going to change everything. compensation restrictions, bonus restrictions. i'm not giving them any money ever again? or "d" other. rich masters, what do you think it is? >> i think there's a little bit of truth in many of those. there's a little bit of complacency, i think. truthfully i think a lot of it has to do with the economy where we are right now. let me bring up another point, too, mike. i think that we're all kind of stunned that this president is actually governing. he's not running the presidency as if it's an extension of the dnc, much like we saw with the bush administration. it was an extension of the republican national committee. he's

but as joe keeps saying -- >> i'm not ambassador joe wilson and i'm not the joe wilson from south carolinater: to make matters worse, this event in everett is the kickoff of his campaign. and even his supporters were having a laugh at the mix-up. >> believe it or not, i see a joe wilson, a congressman from south carolina, calling the president a liar and i thought, how do we make this kind of stuff up? >> reporter: don't shed a tear for these two joes not making a right. because this mr. wilson is determined to make a name for himself. >> i think that any exposure for a judge race is good. >> well, he's looking at it in a positive way, anyway. that was our seattle affiliate kcpq. wilson is running against four other candidates. >>> a pizza shop has to pay for a cook's weight loss surgery so that another operation on a work-related back injury will work. it's from an indiana appeals court. the employee is 340 pounds. the shop's attorney asked the court to hear the case again. an offshoot of the acla say that bosses may think twice of hiring people with health conditions because of this. >>

i'm like joe wilson. i get excited. let it go. >> let's get a quick check on the weather. >> nobody is perfect. >> with bill karins. >> did you feel it in the air? fall has arrived. a cool morning. the wind is up. a rough day at the coast. winds are gusting 30 to 40 miles per hour. rip currents are very high in the mid-atlantic seaboard and you need your umbrella from virginia beach northward up to about philadelphia. we're going to continue with a chance of rain today bring the umbrella with you from philly, washington, d.c., delaware, maryland, your dry today new york city northward. that will change on friday. stormy weather down in orlando, miami, new orleans and thankfully we're getting rain in san antonio and austin. the horrible drought has continued all summer long. we definitely need it. anyone traveling out west, no problems whatsoever. nice warm weather out west. back to you. >> you know, we're going to be going out west. we'll talk to crazy lawrence o'donnell on the speech and lawrence has had some of the mo

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more with joe scarborough and peggy noonan in just a moment. >> after words with joe scarborough and peggy noonan continues. >> host: all right,oe scarborough, part two of our interview. are we a center-right country? >> guest: well, we are. and we've always been a center-right country. always. americans, there's this great line and i never forgot it in david stockman's book about the triumph of politics when he was complaining about how the reagan revolution went off track. i've never forgotten it and, you know what? stockman was 100 percent right. when he said at the end of the book americans don't like revolutions, yes, the reagan revolutionailed according to stockman. he said americans don't want revolutions, they want evolutions. which was actually paul mccartney's theory of the beatles. he said never give them a revolution, give them an evolution. you don't go from meet the beatles to sergeant pepper. it's right. i quote gary wills who was writing for the national review in 1968, and he saidhe morning after nixon won, he said the liberal establishment woke up this morning not b

as joe wilson goes -- >> you lie! so goes the crackpot faithful. >> last night we heard our president address his country. [ booing ] >> clarence page as the political party continues to careen off the tracks. and melissa harris-lacewell on how our political discourse came to this. also the art of turning i'm sorry into send cash. >> go to joewilson.com to defeat patriot opponents of government-run health care. >> it takes a much better actor than joe wilson to get away with faking sincerity. fighting health care reform at all costs. if it finally passes and becomes law, governor tim pawlenty of minnesota says his state still might not stand for it. >> it may be a viable option. >> what do the tenthers have against people with pre-existing conditions? the war in afghan stain. eight years to the day after the attack on our soil that provoked it. prominent democrats say more u.s. troops are not the answer to security problems there. >> we need a surge of afghan forces. >> a security scare in d.c. on september 11. a coas

today's "washington post" reminds us that congressman joe wilson comes at the end of a long line of south carolina politicians that have been caught behaving badly. in fact, it was south carolina congressman preston brooks who beat massachusetts senator charles sumner with a cane on the senate floor in 1876. at least senator sumner got the first underwater tunnel in boston named after him. on that same senate floor in 1902, south carolina senator benjamin tillman slugged his debate partner in the jaw. in 1964, senator strom thurmond wrestled a colleague to the ground to delay a vote. and in the 1970s, the swinging 1970s, congressman john engi jenretroand his wife were caught making love on a pillar behind the steps of the capitol building. of course, the current chief executive of south carolina, who knows for how long, exactly, is appalachian trail expert, governor mark sanford. and to be fair, south carolina is also the home state of ste n stephen colbert, who has as of this hour, managed to remain apparently scandal free. his show is on hiatus this week, which means he was forced to st

>> joe wilson. did some investigating and it turns out joe wilson has been doing this way more than we

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joe? >> look, wilson has brought a problem on himself which is that now the constituents in his district in south carolina will have a better opportunity to judge whether he's fit to serve in congress anymore because his opponent has raised a lot of money overnight having $16,000 in the bank before and now is closing in on half a million. may be able to be a competitive candidate and that's the way it should be. >> go ahead, keith. >> the problem was he did apologize but he repeated the thing that we now know is untrue. fact check has looked at this. illegal immigrants would not be covered. it can't be clearer. >> let's go to the substance of this. go ahead, ron. >> that's not true at all. if luke at the congressional budget office that said there is not a specific provision in there that says that illegal aliens could not be covered. what republicans have tried to do and what republicans were voted down on party line were amendments that said let's specifically state we will not allow peo

i'm joe krebs. >> i'm barbara harrison. straight ahead on "news4 today," new details nearly three months mo after the deadly metro crash. what the recommendation rs to keep your safe. >>> growing fears about a possible swine flu outbreak on college campuses. why health officials may soon be able to track the spread of the disease. >>> it improves your >>> good morning. if y're just waking up, this is "early today." >>> in sports, nervous, jittery new york yankees fans are feeling just a little bit better after last night's games against the angels. here's nbc's fred roggin with an early look at all your sports headlines. >>> good morning. the yankees may have the best record in baseball, but winning in anaheim in new easy task. yankees lost four straight in angels stadium. this would help change their fortune. alex rodriguez with a towering blast to dead center. girlfriend kate hudson approved. angels would rally and tie the game. althoughhe yankees had the last laugh. bases loaded sac fly in the ninth gave new york a lead.