joe alioto, i'm just curious because -- there was a famous joe alioto -- >> i double checked it.n attorney in hawaii. >> bill: okay. well could be. his son, joe alioto, who i knew as an attorney in san francisco, could have moved to hawaii, any way joe alioto is an attorney who has been representing consumers fighting the airlines for years and years. he said boy, we're glad to see this, but it took them a long time. >> i'm certainly glad to see that the department of justice has checked in on what has been going on in the airline industry for the last just very few years. >> bill: yeah. so the question is -- we'll talk later in the program with some of our guests, whether or not this is a good move on the part of the department of justice or not. i think it is. i think in the end, consumers get the short ebb of the stick here when it comes to the benefits, if there are any, of these airlines -- these big airline mergers. i have even seen service get -- with all of these mergers, i haven't seen service get better or prices go down. so good for -- good for the department of justic