he was married to joe alsop. she was, you know, the georgetown, washington, d.c., socialite. kissinger once said that more decisions and tings were made in her living room than in the white house. she really brought some many movers and shakers in the u.s. and the world together. it's a real delight. >> didn't the new biography of joe alsop just come out? >> i believe so. i think there's a play on broway too. >> what should we know about viking. how would is viking? how long has it been around. how did it become a part of penguin. >> i think it's something like that 79, i should know the exact -- i should know the birth date of viking and i don't. i'm sorry. yrch the logo is rock well kent, the beautiful viking ship, so yeah. >> what kind of titles to do you look for authors? >> award winning nonknicks literary fiction. we enjoys the commercial fiction as well. it's a wide breadth of news makers. and we focus on books and authors that will help the dialogue and learn more and start, you know, getting people curious and . >> we're here at book expo america the annual con venge

she was married to joe alsop, getoasto.c al inon said of her that more decisions and things were made i her living room than in the whit house. she really brought so my movers and shakers, um, the u.s. wo the alli aid n bap o lp just come out? >> i believe so. i think there's a play on broadway, too, on joe alsop. >> with john list go. >> exactly. >> now, wh should we know abouviking? how old isik hg' enun w itec a part of penguin? >> oh, jeez, it's something like 79 years. i should know the exact -- i should know the birth date of viking, and i don't, i'm sorry. i know the logo is rockwe nte tikih ,h. atndof ts d look for, authors do you look for? >> award-winning, serious nonfiction, literary nonfiction but we also enjoy the commercial fiction as well. it's a wide breh onoondut will help, um, help the dialogue and learn more and start, you know, get requesting people curious. >> we're here at bookexpo america, the book publishing instry's annualconvtionn w c >> i think it's incredibly important, especially now when, um, everybody is just talking about the physical book versus the e-

alsop was. >> joy: on the other hand, he was socially liberal. he fought against people like joe. >> and a great booster of civil rights. >> joy: i fought against mccarthy who was a crazy anti-communist. and he was anti-communist, too. >> he coined--yeah, he coined the phrase "the domino theory." >> joy: he did? >> he was basically--he was an american exceptionallist like the figures of the neo-conservative movement. he felt it was america's job our obligation to reorder the world's affairs to get in there and make things right as we did--as we did in world war ii. he was a child of world war ii, of course, when the u.s. brought order to europe and to the far east--at least in their-- >> joy: people should look up joseph alsop if they're trying to follow this conversation and they don't know who he is. a-l-s-o-p. a very influential man of his time. and also a closet homosexual. >> he was a closeted man when it was very dangerous information. he was reckless about it. he was caged by the kgb in moss could you in the 1950s. >> joy: the play opened with a naked john lithgow john lit