she was married to joe alsop and she was at georgetown, washington, d.c. socialite. kissinger once said of mary, that more decisions and things were made in her living room than in the white house. she really brought so many movers and shakers in the u.s. and the world together. so it's a real delight. >> did in a new biography of joe also just cannot? >> i believe so. and there's a play on broadway, two. >> now, what you would know about viking. how old is a viking? how did he become a part of this? >> i think it's something like 79 years. i should know the exact, i should know the birthdate of viking and they don't and i'm sorry. i know the logo is the beautiful viking ship. >> what type of titles do you look for? what authors? >> award-winning series nonfiction literary fiction, we also enjoy the commercial section as well. it's a wide breadth of newsmakers, and we really focus on books and authors that will help the dialogue and learn more and start getting people curious. >> we are here at book expo america, the book publishing convention in newark city. how imp