if you have plan on staying put should you be stocking up let's ask survival medicine expert dr joe alton who with his a nurse practitioner wife amy hosts the survival medicine website doom and gloom dot net it is a rich trove posts and podcasts and videos and they have authored alton's pandemic preparedness guy dealing with the emerging and current viral threats and the survival medicine handbook the essential guide for when medical help is not on the way and promise me that after this show you will visit doom and gloom dot net and search disasters supplies the short version of which joe will no list for a stock even for those watching who plan on staying put what are they remiss not having in the house. how and where you should have a home depends a lot on how you answer these questions how long will you be in survival mode the longer you're going to be beyond the reach of a functioning medical system the more supplies you're going to need to deal with common injuries and illnesses brains and strains respiratory infections bleeding wounds burns and more are best handled with some basic

joe biden leads by 8% in wisconsin. joining me now is charlotte alton. welcome back. sunday habit now with you as someone who has spent the last several weeks speaking to voters in the swing states and the subsequent discussions that we have. what is your reaction to this and should this give the biden campaign a confidence boost out of the debate? >> absolutely. these are great numbers for the biden campaign. and they should definitely feel very confident about these numbers. and i think going into the debate, they're in a strong position. one thing i did hear from a lot of voters on the ground when i was in those states was that they're still waiting to see how biden does in the debate. i did hear from people who were sort of wanting to see how he would match up against trump, seeing if he could hold his own. so i do think that these are strong efforts going into the debate, but the debates could change a lot. >> you spent some time in pennsylvania. it is the last leg, i believe, on your swing state tour. what did you hear from the voters there specifically in terms