>> he is the sheriff of maricopa county, joe arpaio. >> see, we used to punish our children in the oldnd we used to take privileges away when they did something wrong, so what's wrong with punishing the inmates and taking privileges away? they committed crimes. what is the difference? why is everybody afraid to say, when you do something wrong, you should be punished? >> over the last 18 years, arpaio has become internationally known for running what he calls america's toughest jail. >> so you were in the prison? >> yeah. >> you like it better here or the prison? >> i want to go back. >> because it's nice, huh? in this county, don't violate the law because you're not going into a hilton hotel. >> whether it truly is the toughest jail is debatable. but arpaio at least wants the inmates to believe it is. >> sometimes they yell at us from 12:00 at night until 12:00 the next day and then they wonder why we're unruly. we do get unruly sometimes on our own behalf, but sometimes we just get pushed and pushed and pushed and pushed. >> do teachers yell in the classroom? >> not all day. >> but d