and that is what it's become, like an attention economy and the cruelty economy. >> you mentioned joe arpaio immigration, is an issue in the state. it is an issue and i actually think sometimes in the state, people understand the complexity of the issue more than they do in washington or political circles. what is your sense of what success should look like for the people of this country, for whom immigration, for better or worse is the main issue? >> obviously securing the border has been the big conversation topic for decades, at this point. when you live in arizona, the conversation of immigration is so common. you have people who live 20 minutes down the road for them. so many people in your neighborhood, like we keep talking about, your community that are immigrants, that are children of immigrants. this country is built on that. the rhetoric we have been seeing, that every single person, that is not a nativeborn american is evil, has been very dangerous and some people in washington, d.c., the states that will never see an actual border in their life, they just hear what they see in th

. >> reporter: the sheriff joe arpaio did that a federal district court found maricopa county sheriff'ss to target latinos. >> this is united states of america. >> reporter: now, donald trump is threatening to take america back to the joe arpaio days. trump pledged to carry out the largest mass deportation in american history if he returns to the white house. trump says, he plans to deputize local law enforcement who he would give immunity to help him carry out the goal. his federal plans would face an uphill battle. but arizona's history provides a glimpse into what it could look like. 2010, sb1070 known as show me your i'mer empowered local police to detain anyone they suspected of being undocumented. today, 6 counties in arizona including pennal are under 287g agreements allowing certain local law enforcement to cross train as ice agents. if doubled trump wins he promised to dep size local police to help him carry out his mass deportation plans would you help him? >> people broke the law. i absolutely agree he's going to need local law enforcement help to be able to do some level of

. >> dinesh d'souza, sheriff joe arpaio. >> bernard kerik, rod blagojevich. >> lil wayne and kodak black wonder trump wants to be president again, so he can finish the job and pardon diddy. he is going to pardon diddy. google diddy and trump pictures. i dare you. they have more pictures together than i have with my family. seriously, i've seen these pictures. he's at every party! i don't understand it. he doesn't drink, he doesn't smoke, what is he doing there? what's the vice? i think i have found it. i think it has something to do with baby oil. who else does he want to pardon? maybe his homie steve bannon. but i'm guessing bannon doesn't want to leave prison. he's in there, like, "these are my people! i didn't know there was so many nazis in prison? what is this utopia?" that's where he is at. oh, and trump will also pardon the january 6th soldiers, right? [boos] because you know, he needs them back for the next january 6th. you don't want all your star players sitting on the bench. and he's being very coy about it, but there's another guy that i think donald trump is definitely going

focusing on immigration, with its history, senator mccain, part of the gang of eight, sb-1070, joe arpaiosheriff of maricopa for many years. how does that history inform voters in arizona today? >> well, i think, you know, voters in arizona get it. we understand we're a border state. we understand the benefits that the southern border provide to the state of arizona, economic benefits are significant. the ports of entry, that's one of the reasons why a focused in my first term in office here in getting money to upgrade these ports of entry. at the same time, we have border security issues that the administration is working on addressing. donald trump doesn't, you know, have a plan for that. he doesn't really have a plan for anything except in this case, in the case of border security, trying to kill, actually killing a bipartisan border security deal that was going to go a long way to helping solve this problem. kamala harris thinks she made the point last night in her speech that given the opportunity if we can get this through congress she'll sign that legislation. but, jose, i think fo