there's a decision made that we should go to the hospital in the form joe ashcroft of the results offeating. being a former senator the king was that would carry a great deal of weight within and he would be persuaded to go ahead and continue the program, an additional 45 days into it to all this mess sorted out. and so anti-car and are directed by the president to go meet with the attorney general. we heard just had surgery. it was a serious illness but we heard have been walking around that day. nonetheless, we on two occasions both as he walked back from the residence through the rose garden and then while we were in incident on the way to the hospital, we both talked about concerns we have about joe ashcroft not incompetent. we didn't want to be accused of taking advantage of a segment. we both agreed we would watch very carefully and if anyone of us uncomfortable that he was incompetent that we would not ask anything of them. we arrive at the hospital. we introduced ourselves as a winner to talk about something important. basically just ashcroft spoke for about 10 minutes talkin