i wanted to ask joe something, because i sort of agree with you, by the way. and i wanted to ask joe, you say the people -- i think you said that people have long -- david bernard, by the way, tax analyst. people have long supported the idea of progressive taxation as being fair, i think you said. but isn't it true that people support the idea of progressive taxation at income levels above what they make? that it's like oh, sure, progressive taxation as long as it's kicking at more than what i make, and whether i make $10,000 or $100,000 or a million dollars, with the exception of len, who apparently does not mind paying higher taxes right now. but most people would say yeah, progressive taxation is great, as long as it's not me. which then doesn't it turn it into a big redistribution mechanism? >> don't tax me, tax that man behind the tree. >> right. >> so you may be all for taxes as long as it's not me. >> the nasty way to put that is it's all about endy, and that you're going after these guys in a punitive way. the less nasty interpretation is everybody has

joe asked anderson whether he hugged young boys in the shower or stayed with them in hotel rooms. the coach said no. anderson testified about gruelling workdays and frequent travel. >> one of the coaches described how often a coach for penn state would work. they would spend time in the office giving speaking engagements. a lot of times the coach would have his time tied up. >> the timing of the alleged defense is so vague sandusky can't offer an alibi. the judge refused to dismiss the charges. a reporter asked whether he testified. he didn't answer. in pennsylvania, brian mooar, news 4. >>> the maryland man suspected in the disappearance of his travel companion in aruba is suing an insurance company for more than $3 million. giorda giordano wants the insurance money from a policy she took out an gardner. she disappeared while they were vacationing in aruba. giordano is a suspect in her disappearance. american express says such an insurance claim wouldn't be evaluated until a year after the incident. >>> d.c. mayor vincent gray spent the day on jury duty. getting other citizens to

. ♪ >> while these hobbies simply kill time for some inmates, for joe aske, it's a source of income. these guys -- i sell them. this is made out of toilet paper, right? see this? it says -- the poem, here's a special flower to say i love and miss you. made from 14 little squares of prison toilet tissue. finding new and different ways to make you laugh or smile makes running out of toilet paper almost seem worthwhile. and people, they actually put them in the letter, send it home. but i make -- i should make two bucks off this tonight so i can smoke a cigarette later. that's what it's all about. >> cigarettes are expensive? >> $2 a cigarette, wow. >> in our three months inside san quentin, our production crew barely found a quiet moment. the noise on the cell block can be deafening. and now at nearly 10:00 p.m., most inmates are about to call it a night before a new day of the same old routine starts all over again. >> shutdown is at 9:30, 10:00, everybody goes quiet. everybody says good night. respectfully, hey, you hear it in some respects. we can have peace and harmony amongst ever

the defense attorney joe asked the alleged victim if sandusky treated him like a son?ness said yes, but only when in front of other people. adding that privately he treated me like a girlfriend. the other seven alleged victims also slated to testify including possibly sandusky himself. shepard? >> shepard: david lee miller at the courthouse in pennsylvania. david lee, thanks. a good crime report, mostly. violent crime is down everywhere in the nation except in small towns. where murder rates are soaring. that's from the fbi's preliminary crime report for the year 2011. it found a 4% drop in violent crimes nationwide from 2010. the fifth straight year that that number has gone down. property crimes also fell nationwide nearly 1%. but get, this the fbi reports nearly 20% rise in murders in towns with fewer than 10,000 people. the baseball great roger clemens will not be taking the stand in his own defense. testimony at his perjury trial finished up today. the jury could get the case as soon as tomorrow following closing arguments, the former pitcher told the judge he is

he screamed for help when sandusky raped him in his basement but when the defense attorney joe amendola asked dottie if she ever heard anyone ask for help, she said no. tuesday was the first time she spoke publicly about her husband's alleged crimes. manuel gallegus, cbs news, bellefonte, pennsylvania. >>> prince george's county council woman karen toles is due in court today. she's accused of reckless driving. in february she was caught driving nearly 100 miles an hour on the beltway. a judge could revoke toles' license at this hearing this afternoon. >>> streets have reopened after a police barricade shut down several blocks in southeast washington. police say a suspected gunman was hiding in a home when the 17 -- in the 1700 block of 17th street southwest. actually it was 17th street southeast. the gunman allegedly shot and killed another man in the same neighborhood around 2:00 this morning. the suspect is in custody but the suspect so far has not been charged. >>> a rocket full of the united states secrets was launched this morning from cape canaveral air force station. the unmanned atla

"did you ever say don't do that to me," lead prosecutor joe mcmidigan asks. "it was never talked about ever," answered the accuser. "basically what happened there, it never happened." the man also described out-of-town trips, one to a texas bowl game, where he says sandusky tried to force him in to oral sex in the bathroom of their hotel room, but sandusky was startled when his wife, dottie, called out from the other room. the witness said he never told anyone about the abuse because he was scared and because he didn't want to lose out on the gifts and football family lifestyle sandusky provided. on tense cross examination, sandusky's defense attorney, joe amendola, suggested that the accuser, like the others in this case, could be motivated by money. but the first witness denied that. amendola also asked why he didn't forcefully shun sandusky earlier. the man expressed remorse, saying he feels responsible for what happened to other victims because he did not speak out back then. manuel gallegus, cbs news, bellefonte, pennsylvania. >> during the proceedings,

defense attorney joe amendola asking her directly, is your basement sound-proof? no. how's your hearing? i'm a light sleeper. i hear noises. she told jurors her husband is in bed before she is 99% of the time. they sleep together in the same bed. and when asked point-blank, did you ever hear any of the young men yelling for help, dottie said, no. during a gentle cross-examination, dottie told the jury, she does not know why the boys would lie about her husband, but took a parting shot at the boy who started it all. >> known as victim number four. woo kind of kid was he? she said, he was conniving, demanding, wanted it way. jim avila, abc news, bellefonte, pennsylvania. >> sandusky could testify today. >>> shifting gears to politics. and an about-face on marco rubio's vice presidential prospects. abc news was first to report the surprising news that the romney campaign wasn't even doing a background check on the popular florida senator. at first, mitt romney refused to comment. but later, he told an interviewer that rubio is being thoroughly vetted. >>> a house committ

know, joe amendola was cross-examining the victim and the victim cried even more and said to -- joe asked him whether or not he needed a break, and the victim said no, i just need you to stop asking me the same question over and over again, so i can't imagine that played well to this jury, the fact that on cross examination the victim cried even more, so not a great day i think for the defense today. >> our legal analyst, sunny hostin, thank you. >> thanks, john. >>> when we come back, we will be joined by rick santorum. why he thinks his fellow conservatives can trust mitt romney even though months ago santorum told them they can't. >>> later, florida's governor is here to defend his state's controversial decision to remove thousands of names from voter lists, provoking a federal lawsuit. [ woman ] for the london olympic games, our town had a "brilliant" idea. support team usa and show our olympic spirit right in our own backyard. so we combined our citi thankyou points to make it happen. tom chipped in 10,000 points. karen kicked in 20,000. and by pooling more thankyou points from folks

defense attorney joe amendola asking her directly, is your basement soundproof? no. how is your hearing? i'm a light sleeper. i hear noises. she told jurors her husband is in bed before she is 99% of the time. they sleep together in the same bed. when asked point blank did you ever hear any of the young men yelling for help, dottie said no. during a gentle cross-examination, dottie told the jury she does not know why the boys would lie about her husband but took a parting shot at the boy who started it all, known as victim number four. what kind of kid was he? she said he was conniving, demanding, wanted his way. but now the spotlight turns to jerry sandusky himself. will he take the stand tomorrow in the final day of testimony? his attorney was heard telling the judge today he wasn't sure the decision hadn't been made yesterday, but abc news has been told in fact they're leaning toward putting jerry sandusky on the stand, but that final decision will not be made until tonight, diane. >> all right, jim avila, that will be a stunning turn of events. if he does take th

lead prosecutor joe mcgettigan asked. "it was never talked about ever" answered the accuser. "basically what happened there, it never happened." "tell the jury how many times mcgettigan instructed. "it would have to be 40 times at least." earlier in the day mcgettigan laid out the prosecution's case calling sandusky's behavior predator and serial. a jury of seven women and five men sat transfixed as mcgettigan flashed the young faces of eight alleged victims on a big video screen calling out their first names in public for the first time. in turn, defense attorney joe amendola spoke of the david and goliath battle sandusky now faces, describing the former penn state coach as playful and naive but not a predator, pointing out six of the alleged victims have hired civil attorneys. "why do people lie? what's the old saying? money is the root of all evil. these young men have a financial interest in this case." late this afternoon amendola cross-examined the accuser but made little headway in undermining his testimony. in part his strategy seems to be a generational thing, that w

. >> joe, you asked about $40,000 plate dinner food, aretha franklin tweeted, chicken with mustard andtomatoes. >> i'm sure areceipts that franklin knows something about food. >> unnecessary. >> and for the $40,000. and they can drink that. you can't put a price on that. >> that is $39,000 right there. >> i don't think it will help matthew. >> he wasn't there. >> or was he. finally here is some of the people that will be hollywood, that is again-44, the fund-raising program. under 40. britain is 45. gray is 52 and peter frampton is 106. john, don't you think bailing on the fund-raiser is more proof he should be impeached? >> precisely. it took you to put your finger on that. >> and sending tweets to aliens, joe, you said if aliens came here they would show the same respect as lobsters. i don't understand that, i was taught by movies in like contact we should have some defense the aliens. they are the evil military people and liberal scientists who know that the aliens are people are the heroes. >> one of them is bearing down to eat you. get a scientist, matthew broderick from war games

. >> we asked to resign from the case and that was done in secret. joeola and i asked the judge if we could withdraw from representing jerry sandusky because we felt we were ethically unable to go forward. >> when did you ask to resign the case? >> we did that the morning before jury selection started. it was denied. >> paul, when you hear a defense attorney saying they were ethically unable to move forward, those were his words, what would that mean, possibly? >> this is an astonishing claim by this attorney. this is the same attorney who said before trial the defense was going to be that sandusky gave showers to disadvantaged boys, he was teaching them how to take showers. usually in criminal cases, criminal defendants complain they haven't had a speedy trial, guaranteed by the constitution. is the now going to be the reverse of that. they are going to say he was forced into trial quickly, a rush to judgment. what it makes me think, randi, in the end, it's going to be a claim of incompetence of counsel. you don't hear the attorney saying that. essentia

did you ever hear a young man yell for help, asked joe amendola, referring to one alleged victim's story of abuse? no, she answered during cross- examination, lead prosecutor joseph put up eight pictures of the alleged victims on the screen. just as he had done during his opening argument. he then asked what reason would any of those people lie about anything? taking a long pause, dottie sandusky said, "i don't know what it would be." the defense will likely rest its case sometime tomorrow. its final witness is expected to be none other than jerry sandusky himself taking the stand, scott, in his own defense. >> pelley: the case could go to the jury this week. armen, thank you very much. and an emotional return to britain for aung san suu kyi. a major shift in immigration. asians now make up the number one group coming to america. and a new face takes its place as the head of america's largest protestant denomination. when the "cbs evening news" continues. over forty-percent of adults don't meet the recommended daily intake for many vitamins and minerals through diet alone. that'['s why t

. >> we asked to resign from the case. that was done in secret. joe amendola i asked judge cleveland if we could withdraw from representing jerry sandusky because we felt we were ethically unable to go forward. >> when did you ask to resign the case? >> we did that the morning before jury seion started. it was denied. >> we're starting to hear now om some of the jurors. they say they were all on the same page in deliberations. i want you to hear now from juror number 6. she wasbecause she got sick on t day of testimony so she didn't factor in the verdict but her case on the case tells the whole stor story. >> mostly what they asked, did i watch the news anddid i know a lot about the case. i really didn't. n't really think that they wouldn't pick me. i thought he was creepy and he didn't look like he was taking it too serious. that was the big thing that i noticed because i thought that was a big red fl that he was kind of like admiring them like they were his lovers. oh, yeah, you could feel the emotion, there was no doubt about it, that they were tel

and it's not an ideological issue. >> let me ask you really quickly about joe klein's road trip. ng story. the question is asked all the time, why do working class americans vote against their self-interest. joe klein talks in large part about churches and going to middle american churches, and so many middle american churches that reach in, week in and week out to the working poor in america. >> one of the things that joe says is it's not -- government doesn't touch people's lives so much every day, but often faith-based institutions do. churches, synagogues, all of that who are actually reaching out and helping people. and this is the group that so many working class americans, americans in the south and the midwest recognize and identify with. and he actually says that's a great thing, and that's a wonderful thing for america, but government actually has to become more involved too. >> that's something we noticed during hurricane katrina. we went over there and drove over, and it took the government about ten days to two weeks to be there. and all of these guys that get lampoon

." ♪ >> and since we couldn't get enough of those moves from the clip, we thought we would ask joe too something no guest has ever done before. show us what he's got. cue the music, please. ♪ it's raining men hallelujah ♪ it's raining men ♪ >> that's it? there has to be more. we have our cash ready and everything. >> i was going to say, if you have dollar bills. >> show us, big boy. >> meal stripping is basic. there are only a few moves. there is the body roll, then the top body roll. >> i like that one. >> scram! >> oh, well! >> your parents must be so proud of their little joey. >> it's going to be an awkward summer for mom and dad. >> joey grew up to be big dick. >> richie. >> my father is very proud. >> well, he's italian. of course he is. >> tell us what you liked about this. when you first heard about this movie? >> what is there not to like about this movie? it's such a great group of guys and it's really fun. aside from that, you're basically having 200 female extras scream, claw, grab, body cavity search. >> right. there are no rules for women. the men get a lap dance and stu

joe? back over to you. >> okay, bertha, thank you. this is larry's read, anyway. i'm going to do it. jamie dime testifying on capito hill. who askedestions? congress or surfers. >> reporter: joe, welcome to "are you smarter than a congressman?" we wanted to know if regular people could ask better questions and get more information than our elected officials. >> you already said something that is false. >> lobbying is a constitutional right and we have a right to have oyou are voice heard. >> oh, well, i'm not questioning your right to lobby. i'm questioning what's in the best interest of the american public. >> is it fair to say that jpmorgan could have losses of $500 billion or $1 trillion. >> not unless this earth is hit by a moon. subpoena. >> is gambling investing? >> no. when you gamble on average you lose. the house wins. >> that's been my experience investing. >> i would happy to get you a better investment adviser and improve on your experience. >> even here in la-la land, could people ask better questions? >> if you could ask him anything, what would you ask? >> how much money do they have in credit default swaps with ger

terry reid comes in and joe biden was asked to come into said this -- he said majority leader's have not filled that role. dianne feinstein said that if we keep going on this way, we will be a minority party. this kind of presumption made perfect sense in 1955 or 1965 or 1985. it does not make sense after the 1990's. you see this subtext often. there's something unnatural about republican majority? this adds to the ferocity of the republicans who say it will not kick the football again. >> thanks, gentlemen. that was very civil, wasn't it? [laughter] i'm supposed to take some questions but i thought i would each of you one quick question. norm, how would you respond to a political party that is about to nominate mitt romney as its presidential nominee and four years earlier, nominated john mccain as its presidential nominee? alice that fit with your idea that this is a bunch of -- how does that fit with your idea that this is a bunch of crazy radicals? steve, i thought i would ask you to address the following point -- what might make the republicans radical in this day and age is the

terry reid comes in and joe biden was asked to come into said this -- he said majority not filled that role. dianne feinstein said that if we keep going on this way, we will be a minority party. this kind of presumption made perfect sense in 1955 or 1965 or 1985. it does not make sense after the 1990's. you see this subtext often. there's something unnatural about republican majority? this adds to the ferocity of the republicans who say it will not kick the football again. >> thanks, gentlemen. that was very civil, wasn't it? [laughter] i'm supposed to take some questions but i thought i would each of you one quick question. would you respond to a political party that is about to nominate mitt romney as its presidential nominee and four years earlier, nominated john mccain as its presidential nominee? alice that fit with your idea that this is a bunch of -- how does that fit with your idea that this is a bunch of crazy radicals? steve, i thought i would ask you to address the following point -- what might make the republicans radical in this day and age is their understanding or maybe

defense attorney joe amendola asked her directly. is your basement sound-proof? no. how's your hearing? i'm a light sleeper. i hear noises. she told the jurors her husband is in bed before she is 99% of the time. they sleep together in the same bed. and when asked point-blank, did you ever hear the young men yelling for help. dottie said no. prosecutors were gentle with her on cross examination, but dottie admitted she could not think of a reason the boys would lie about her husband, jerry. today, is scheduled to be the last day of testimony. the judge told the jurors that they should hear closing arguments tomorrow. and they will get the case tomorrow. he told them to bring a suitcase because they'll be sequestered in a local hotel and will deliberate over the weekend if necessary. george? >> jim, thanks. >>> we have a follow-up to the big political story we brought you yesterday from abc's jon karl. he reported that mitt romney was not doing the kind of background check on popular florida senator, marco rubio, that would make him a vice presidential candidate. it r

. >> we actually asked to resign from the case, and that was done in secret. joe amendola and i asked the judge if we could withdraw from representing jerry sandusky because we felt we were ethically unable to go forward. >> when did you ask to resign the case? >> we did that the morning before jury selection started. we got an informal ethics opinion from the bar hotline and we were told that under rule 1.16, if i'm quoting it right, an attorney has an ethical duty to be prepared. in he can't, he must asked to be withdrawn from the case. we did that and it was denied. >> reporter: last year jerry sandusky waived his right for a preliminary hearing where some of these issues may have been able to be brought up. so it remains in question whether or not this appeal has any validity. >> what about community reaction? >> reporter: yesterday outside here, you obviously heard some of the community reaction. you heard people out here cheering when the guilty verdicts came down. out in jerry sandusky's neighborhood, there was one of his neighbors, sue strauss. she said in

joe. let me ask you, we're really passed the macondo spill, names like bp, they are basically stuck when thisd. do you believe there's volatility in those names. >> barometric pressure what they have to do, they are stuck like exxon. they are range bound because they have to increase their dividend. they can go out and find a huge oilfield and won't do much for their stock because the companies are so large. they need the dividend up 4 or 5% and stock will move up. >> boone, let me ask you quickly before i let you run. you've already said you think nat gas has bottomed. in recent days or weeks you've gotten completely out of chesapeake. am i right about that? >> yes. >> you've also at the same time said don't bess against auburn. why aren't betting with him anymore? >> we moved it over to some other stocks that we felt had a quicker play. aubrey is hung up on the natural gas price is the problem. when nat gas moves up $4 or $5, aubrey will be a home run hitter again. >> you will admit there are some questionable practices raised at chesapeake affecting the stock more so than perhaps just the

. >> we actually asked to resign from the case and that was done in secret. joe amendola and i asked judge cleland if we could resign from representing jerry sandusky because we felt we were unable to ethically go forward. >> when did you ask to resign the case? we did that before the jury was selected and we got an informal opinion and we were told under rule 1.16, if i'm quoting it right or 1.6, or it is 1.16, if the attorney has an ethical duty to be prepared and adequately able to represent the defendant. if he can't he must ask to withdraw from the case. we did that. this was denied. >> reporter: now again, that is the voice of carl romager and one of the co-councils in the case and he was appearing on his own radio show that appears in this area every friday. fred? >> why wouldn't these attorneys express themselves further about these concerns even once jury selection began. they would still have the judge's ear in order to express their concerns about their concerns about being able to fairly represent jerry sandusky, wouldn't they? >> reporter: the judge

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joe, thanks for joining us. let's ask this.we both, we watched that performance by the president and his opponent yesterday. the president was saying move ç on with other things to fight about. romney seemed to be coming out loaded on top of that building, some insurance building in washington. this guy sounds like he wants to fight this bill. do you think that's right or not, or with david and he has to decide? >> well, i think it's a tough choice for him because i think it's a trap. if he decides to continue on the discussion on this, here's the answer from the white house. the part that you were for in massachusetts that we took from you, the individual mandate, is the least popular part of this bill. what david was talking about is right. every other provision of the bill enjoys anywhere between 62 to 80%-plus support among voters, including republicans. so it's a bad discussion for him to get into. the more you talk about it, the more people are going to realize what they like about the bill is what president obama did. t

. >> we actually asked to resign from the case, and that is done in secret. joei asked the judge if we could withdraw from representing jerry sandusky, because we felt we were unethically unable to go forward. >> when did you ask to do that? >> the morning before jury selection started, and it was denied. >> paul, when hear a defense attorney say they were ethically unable to move rward and those were his words, what would that mean possibly? >> this is an astonishing claim by this at.ey and by the way, this is the same attorney who said before triat g , that sanduskgawers tehing temow to take showers. usually in the criminal cases the criminal defendants claim they have not had a speedy trial which is guaranteed by the constitution, and this is going to be the reverse of this, because they are going to say he was forced into trial and a rush to judgment. what it makes me think, randi, in the end, a claim of incompetence of counsel. you don't hear the attney sa that, but essentially i think that sandusky may have a claim that his attorneys acted incoetently, and

one of the most dramatic moments came late yesterday afternoon when joe amendola asked the victim, didn't jerry sandusky treat you like a son? and the alleged victim replied, "yes, in public he did. aside from that, he treated me like his girlfriend." charlie. >> armen, thank you very much. >>> the u.n. says the violence in syria is getting worse this morning and syrian troops are using children as human shields. the united states says bashar al assad's government may be organizing another massacre. elizabeth palmer traveled north of the hard-hit city of homs. this morning she is in the syrian capital damascus. >> reporter: the fierce battle that's been raging in homs is just on the southern edge of a whole area of central syria along the main highway where the syrian military and the armed opposition have been fighting each other from positions that are often just a few hundred yards apart. a police barrier marks the start of the war zone. just north of homs, fighting has closed syria's main highway, but the u.n.'s allowed through and we go with them. on either side, mile after mile of d

. >> no, i was asking joe. i know the rest of you are. >> joe. >> i'm struggling with it.m trying to figure out how to punish people for bad behavior. in a way -- i save punish people for bad behavior in a way that costs everybody else the way it does. look at medicare and medicaid expenses, they're exploding and doctors will tell you half of that comes down to terrible decisions, not made in one day, not made over one month or even one year but terrible decisions made over 20, 30, 40 years. >> who do you think is being punished in here? >> we all are. >> we're all paying for it. >> they don't have to pay for it. >> one of the critical elements of that of obesity in america is if you take a look at bus stops and kids going to school in urban areas, many of them, too many of them stop at a variety store and get like a ring ding and big orange soda, that's their breakfast. as delicious as it is -- >> do they still call them variety stores? >> and ring dings? >> no seriously. >> what's underlying all of this is exactly what steve is talking about. it's a socioeconomic problem

joe, ann romney was asked in a radio interview about the romney policy on vacations. joe. >> this next question is going to sound like one of those flippant questions but i'm really serious about it. if you become first lady, are you going to go on all these vacations like the current inhabitants of the white house are? >> i doubt that. you know, our vacations and our happiness comes from being with our children and the grandchildren. >> what exactly was she trying to suggest? >> she is not going to be going on any of those high faluting italian vacations to all these exotic places regular folk like her and her husband who happen to sit on a couple hundred million dollars don't cotton to. she is trying to project a regular gal image that they are just people like you and me who happen to have millions at their disposal. >> joe, mitt romney told us less than a few weeks ago that he had great memories of walking down t there with his beautiful wife. what is she talking about? >> that was then. >> oh. >> that was before he was running for president for pete's sake. now h