being joe biden. but it's ironic, part of the ryan proposal is to increase the subsidy for the poorer medicare beneficiaries and raise the taxes on the wealthier in order to sustain a program, which by the way, the congressional budget office says is going to become insolvent in 2020. nine years from now. so you can't really compare the republican proposal with the status quo. the status quo is going to be gone. >> everybody agrees something is going to have to be done. medicare, medicaid, maybe even down the road social security. you agree, right? >> that's right. that's why the president has agreed with finding savings. this is why we called our group what we did, priorities usa. if you don't have the priority in the right place, you send this country on the wrong track and putting the priority on making sure that millionaires get tax cuts as opposed to essentially ending medicare, it's a different priority. >> it's a slogan, but the reality is we're nine years away from ill son venncy and the presi

we've talked about joe biden before and doozies, but usually seems to get a pass. >> the biden list is long list. and i agree with what jehmu says, certain candidates get certain reputations and the media gave them that reputation, it would be hard to statistically figure out

this isn't joe biden's first negotiation. >> no. joe biden's been around far long time. i'm sure he played a critical role. i'm sure the president of the united states has played a critical role. a lot of people, a lot of democrats have been upset that the president did not invoke that clause in the 14th amendment to the constitution and say you know what, and bill clinton, the former president, recommended he do it. he said you know what, i'm the president. my responsibility is to make sure the united states does not go into default so i'm unilaterally raising the debt ceiling without congressional authorization. >> and you saw what michele bachmann said the minute that was raised, that that would turn this country into a dictat dictatorship. you could see all the legal issues and people saying he should be impeached. this was clearly an area the white house legal team looked at it and said the way to go is the way that has always been, which is go to the congress and get the afrooufl raise the debt limit. it may be annachronistic in thee times, and fst, you have to fix

. >> vice president joe biden has joined twitter. sent out the first tweet today asking americans to take time to think of u.s. troops and their families on this holiday. the vice president known for his gap, don't expect to see many of those on zitter -- twitter. the vice president joe biden's am is at vp.  >> americans in london celebrated the 4th of july at griefnor square today with the -- grovenor square. the likeness of ronald reagan is celebrating the park and to end the cold war. greg palka has the story. >> reporter: americans celebrating independence day in london's griefnor square. a 10-foot bronze statue of ronald reagan adorns this park. and marking $100 years since the birth as relatives were helping and the cold war. the former secretary of state condoleezza rice said reagan would have a hard time imagining -- . >> a europe whole free and at peace. a europe in which we enjoy friendship and alliance with the former captive states in the trans-atlantic alliance called nato. >> reporter: they're joining

we've talked about joe biden before and doozies, but usually seems to get a pass. >> the biden list isst. and i agree with what jehmu says, certain candidates get certain reputations and the media gave them that reputation, it would be hard to statistically figure out who made the most gaffes, if you're on the trail all the time, you will make mistakes, either party, both parties and just the media pick on some and not others. >> i think, you know, thinking about those two examples there, judy, the family of john waip, i think, is probably not terribly upset she may have misidentified the place of his birth. but the family of jared monty and the president thinks he pinned a medal on this man's chest, and when in fact he came home in a coffin, is a big deal. >> it is, but the parents accepted his apology and the fact that barack obama didn't know how old his daughter was strikes me as an interesting flub. >> he's not home that often, he's out playing golf. >> what struck me about the coverage of michele bachmann, she's gone from being an idiot and religious zealot and people called her

i think it's joe biden's option.e biden decides he wants to be secretary of state and hillary clinton leaves before the re-election process completes itself, then i think it will be necessary for biden and obama together to make a decision. and i think if they do make the decision it will be cuomo. i do not advocate dumping biden. my comment has always been that cuomo was 2016, which follows what schrum said. if, in fact, there's a vacancy looming i think cuomo would appropriately fill that vacancy. >> bob, let's talk a little about cuomo's e-messaging pro file whatever may happen. a lot of coverage and energizing to the liberal base of the party, yet a lot of his kind thus far has been spent balancing the budget and drawing the line on no tax increase. talking medicaid, the highest spending state next to california. lots of fat and critics saying in the medicaid program, a traditional democratic constituency and came up with ways and to put the public pensions on a table ways more typically associated with the gop g

. >> the man some think will take joe biden's place on the 2012 ballot addresses the reports for the time. >> also here in washington, preparations under way for one of a kind spiritual gathering at the verizon center. good evening. i'm jim betts . >> we begin with the verdict that has stunned america, casey anthony not guilty of murdering her daughter. not since o.j. simpson has one case and one verdict captivated so many people. even casey's own parents appeared to be in shock and rushed out without acknowledging her. the six-week trial included some bombshell allegations, but it took jurors less than 12 hours to make up their minds. that was one of many reasons today's verdict surprised so many. jay gray starts us off from orlando, florida. >> as to the charge of first-degree murder, not guilty. >> reporter: after more than six weeks of testimony and more than 400 items entered as evidence -- >> as to the charge of aggravated child abuse, not guilty. >> reporter: decision was quick. the jury deliberating less than 11 hours and delivering a resounding message. >> as to the charming

vice president joe biden getting into the game.ribute to the troops, vp and dr. b, hope you take time to think about our troops and military family this is independence day. happy 4th from the office of the vice president. again, trying to reengage with younger voters. we've seen republicans out on the campaign trail also getting into the social media trick trying to engage younger, perhaps republican leaning voters. as they crisscross across iowa, new hampshire and some of the early states, they're making sure to engage on social media trying to get those younger folks to get excited about their campaigns, guys. >> steve: understood. >> dana: actually it was michelle bachman who was one of the early adopters of social media with the tea party and she had a little bit of a jump start against some of the other candidates. >> what she said. exactly. >> dana: that's right, mike. >> brian: go ahead, mike. >> i said i don't challenge dana anymore. >> steve: all right. thank you very much. let's join laura ingraham live in the cap top. i

eric cantor blew up the original deficit talks with joe biden. walked out of those. went into a meeting this week with the president, got into a bit of a tiff and has become sort of the spokesman for the republicans on this. so you see in a sense that he's a leader who wants to really represent this new group, which represents the base of the republican party. gwen: and which represents a real and enduring ideological divide. it's not like these republicans don't actually believe that raising taxes is going to hurt the economy. they actually believe it should be on the table but i was struck by hearing the president say he believes that too. >> i think there is an ideological divide. it has to do with the role of government. the republicans would like to use this confrontation to end up with a smaller government. the president believes the opposite. he's trying to clear the decks of the fiscal disaster so that he can do other things. he sees a more activist role of government. what's unfortunate is that in order for each of them to advance their cases and clarify the

to gear up. >> one day before their expected vote on a presidential endorsement, vice president joe bidenke to the national education association today an assembly that includes delegates from 10,000 local unions with more. >> were not for the inspiration of love and guidance of at least one or two of our teachers. >> his 30 minute address was part of a repeatedly attacking the republican party in front of an audience that spent $50 million during the last presidential contest to support president barack obama. the gop does not see a quality education as a vehicle to a better future. >> we can either afford it or that it should be deemed priority this new republican party emphasized this new republican party has a different philosophy, this is not your father's republican party. >> biden says education is about more than just what is in the classroom, it is about social equality economic opportunity and the concentration of wealth. some of the reforms have rankled educators but the administration will always fight for and alongside teachers. >> i respect this agreement we have. and not al

these children are the cut strings that lift our national ambitions along. >> joe biden gave a fiery speech to the nation's largest union in his conference. tomorrow they will decide whether to endorse president obama like it did four years ago. many members oppose the president obama's support of charter school and linking teacher pay to student performance. >>> michelle bachmann focused on religious issues when she took her campaign to a church this weekend. bachmann visited several churches siting the bible and telling the audience about her own spiritual awakening. afterward she met with members of a congregation before heading to a pizza parlor. >>> president obama will be holding his first ever twitter town hall. he will be answering questions from the white house. the cofounder of twitter will select the questions. >>> we continue to follow the developing news in wood side where a small plane has made an emergency landing on the freeway. >>> also coming up, guilty or innocent? when the jury is supposed to get the case of casey anthony. >>> the calls behind the spill that relea

con -- barack obama's handicap is joe biden. [ laughter ] i didn't know that. can google it. >> steve: it's on the pga listing. pro -- the match got emotional at times. con -- boehner cried whenever someone said they shot a birdie. [ laughter ] [ as boehner ] "i used to have a little birdie when i was a boy, growing up." [ laughter ] pro -- seeing republicans and democrats getting along. con -- seeing joe biden's grandpa legs in shorts. [ laughter ] not a pretty sight. pro -- hearing boehner yell, "fore!" con -- hearing obama yell, "more years, please!" [ laughter ] pro -- playing outside allowed john boehner to work on his tan. con -- at one point, groundskeepers accidently hauled him away, thinking he was a dead oak tree. [ laughter ] "boss, this tree is crying. should i -- ?" >> steve: "it must be sap." >> jimmy: and finally, pro -- john boehner has one of the best strokes in congress. con -- especially now that anthony weiner resigned. [ cheers and applause ] there you go, everybody. that's "pros and cons." [ cheers and applause ] we'll be right back with c

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. >>> it only took a few years, but vice president joe biden joins the twitter generation. his first tweet. >> and we'll tell you about it. and new research that could ago long way to tell women how often they should get mammograms. >> and who is this skilled pilot showing his stuff. >> you forgot dark. >> it's prince william. >> --ing. ?x?x?x?x?x?x?x?x?x?x?xx [ male announcer ] bring home a complete meal for your family. 10 pieces of the world's best chicken, 3 large sides and 6 biscuits. enough real food to feed a family of 4 or more for just 20 bucks. today is a kfc day. today tastes so good. >> closed captioning brought to you by mancini sleepworld. >>> it's 5:13 now. an apple website has been hit by hackers. a group has posted two dozen user names and passwords that were taken from apple's server. they say there could be further attacks on apple. company is not commenting on the breach. >> joe biden is going to have work on paring down his words now that he officially on twitter. he is now officially as vp. he says to think of the troops in battle. it will be written b

. >> you know who you should be in the winnebago with, joe biden? biden and miller.would be the biggest reality show. we could sell it to oprah's network. biden on the road again. >> he can get into the car pool lane with whatever that thing is on his head, that is how distinct that is. >> bill: an extra passenger you're saying? >> yes, that's what i'm saying. billy, i like palin in the bus and the whole family in the bus. reminds me of the part ridge hunter family episode or something where they are all out there together, some on let's shoot something. >> bill: i remember that. >> i dig it. >> bill: we heard just before air time that willie nelson wanted to get on the because but they wouldn't let him because he had his suit case and he wouldn't open it and show them what was in it. >> say to willie what is in the case and he says let's just say it is organic and sustainable. >> bill: not an easy bus to get on. we are trying to get waters on the bus. he was hitch hiking injure the bus goes.ever >> i think they should sell ad space. she should rotate that thing out

the vice president joe biden working on paring down his words.t us out his first tweet asking americans to take time on the 4th of july to think of the troops in battle. he is known for his verbal gaffes but his twitter feed will be written by his staff which is typical of a lot of leaders. >> what age should begin having mammograms to casino for breast cancer. they believe they have a system that could make a best decision. carolyn johnson has more. >> like a lot of women, jacqueline had her first mammogram at age 40. she wasn't swayed by a recommendation that suggested most women don't need it until age 50. >> i would rather have it. i think it's great to do it early because if there is something wrong they catch it early on. >> now, a new study has come down on jacqueline's side but with a twist. >> we found how often a woman should have a mammogram depends on the risk of getting breast cancer. there is an area of density. >> he and his colleagues examined various risk factors, including density. with higher density is at higher risk. >> great

joe biden his side kick said in 94 i must protest against increasing the debt without taking positive steps to slow its growth. fast forward 30 years he is the man tasked by the president to orchestrate another massive increase in america's borrowing limit. here to help sort through all of this is the author of the number one new york times best seller encouraging consequence the architect. karl rove is back. how are you? >> fine, sean, how are you? >> let me start with the president. he says in no uncertain terms i will not consider 30, 60, 180 day stopgap. in the end i think it may come to that. he will have to eat a lot of his words here, no? >> absolutely. i think the republicans ought to make him eat those words. cap, cut and balance was good. it got him on the offense. it is the only measure that passed congress either house and passed with a by partisan vote. we can't stay there. as you and i talked last week the next step ought to be to try to push it through the senate and when harry reid says no and democrats refuse to take it up then plan b. take a chunk of the $1.5 trillio

that's right, joe biden's team lost a round of golf this weekend. d if you thought losing was rough, you should have seen biden when he found out the last hole wasn't a clown's mouth. he's like what is -- [ laughter ] what kind of golf is this? where is the windmill, damn it? [ laughter ] calm down, joe. listen to this -- in her new memoir, bristol palin reveals that she lost her virginity to levi johnston, in a tent while drunk on wine coolers. [ laughter ] yeah, when levi's friends heard that, they were like, wine coolers and a tent? well excusez moi, mr. fancy schmancy. [ laughter and applause ] they're from mr. bartle and mr. james. [ applause ] [ imitates zipper ] let's go. >> steve: oh, yeah. >> jimmy: this is interesting. new york state senator greg ball asked his twitter followers if he should support a bill legalizing gay marriage. that's right, the senator's name is greg ball. [ laughter ] it's too bad anthony weiner retired. because those two could have done some great stuff -- [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] the great ball and weiner

are they sitting down with joe biden. ack lew wondering around the hill. >> i haven't seen jack lew this morning. nor vice president biden up here that i know about. republican senators are meeting right now with mitch mcconnell. they're having lunch. and as they went into that meeting, guys were telling us -- senators were flatly saying once boehner gets this bill through and saves face, demonstrates that he can pass something, he's going to have to move towards the compromise that comes out of the senate. he was saying we've got to find something that gets at least half of house re-s. not all of them like boehner's trying to do now. at least half of them and you make up the difference with democrats. republican senators are no more interested in this house bill than democratic senators are. senator mccain going into this lunch with i'm told they were having spa getty repeated his assertion with the idea that we're going to do a balanced budget amendment to cap federal spending as 18% of the economy as bizarro. everyone o

mitch mcconnell has been talking to vice president joe biden throughout the day about a possible deal. what we're hearing from democrats is this idea they are holding strong on getting any definite extension through 2012. that's a position that has been really forced upon the republicans. republicans have said there will be no revenue. in terms of sprinkle of information that's what we're hearing. they are looking at a trigger. what could a trigger be after the first extension of the debt ceiling and there's this bipartisan commission we heard about in the boehner bill and reid bill. what would be the trigger to make sure the debt limit goes through 2012 and make serious spending cuts. there's talk about maybe a social security cuts that would be painful for both parties, something of that nature. as far as the house of representatives is concern they are gone. they are at dinner. they are waiting back to to see what the senate will do on what could be the night that there finally is a break through. >> kristen, what are we hearing from the white house? >> reporter: one senior white h

now, i'm thinking yahweh for vice president because, like joe biden, he's kind of a gas machine. (laughter) i mean, floods, pest lins pesti, emus? do we really need them and ostriches? plus, god invented circumcision. the negative ad just writes itself. (laughter) >> governor yahweh claims he wants to cut federal spending. but he also wants to cut off the tip of your penis. (laughter) yahweh, wrong for america; wrong for your penis. (cheers and applause) >> stephen: tough stuff. tough but true, i've got to say. plus perry is a straight shooter when it comes to shooting straight at stuff. jim? >> texas governor rick perry has a message for wily coyotes out there. don't mess with my dogs. perry said he shot a coyote with a laser sighted pistol after it was menacing his dog during an early morning jog. >> stephen: that's right. rick perry jogs with a laser sighted pistol strapped to his arm. (laughter) in texas, guns are also mp3 players. (laughter) now, when questioned about killing the coyote, perry had a rock-solid explanation. "either me or the dog were in imminent danger. i did

president was shot twice at a restaurant while campaigning by an unknown gunman and he passed away and joe biden was the new new president. they had 33,000 followers. no comments from fox representatives on this apparent hack. >> we know it is not true. the president is in washington, d.c. and safe. >>> prosecutors in florida will get the final word with jurors before they begin deliberating in the casey anthony murder trial. anthony is accused of killing her two-year-old daughter caylee. her attorney argued yesterday that the toddler accidentally drowned in the am swimming pool. prosecutors claim she was suffocated with duct tape by her mom that crafted elaborate lies to mislead people. >> she took a child and took a life and put it in the trunk and forgot it. >> they will ask you to imagine fictional science. it's a infant of forensics. >> the trial has been under way for six weeks. casey anthony could get the death penalty. >> an aircraft monitoring the air around the wildfire in new mexico have not detected any unusual radiation levels. flames came chose to a laboratory but the fire shifted

going through the house, i don't know how helpful that is given it's more so his vice president, joe bidenexperience in hammering out these giant negotiations. >> that final vote in the senate was 59 to 41, which means the democrats definitely picked up some republicans there. i don't have the names of the republicans just yet. we'll get that during the break. jay newton-small of "time" magazine and ezra cline of "the washington post," i want to thank you very much for joining me tonight. >> thank you. >>> coming up, when the august 2nd deadline arrives, if there is still no deal, will president obama invoke the 14th amendment? he says he won't do it, but the question keeps coming up. >>> and later, the kings of late night and the writers of the late night comics monologues find the debt ceiling is where the humor is this week. ♪ [ male announcer ] how could switchgrass in argentina, change engineering in dubai, aluminum production in south africa, and the aerospace industry in the u.s.? at t. rowe price, we understand the connections of a complex, global economy. it's just one reason over

. >> vice president joe biden administered the oath of office.ers across the globe and the biggest challenges are fighting terrorism and cutting the pentagon budget. >>> president said don't ask don't tell banning openly gay men and women from military service. >> i just opened up an e-mail. >> reporter: it's been 18 years of waiting. there it is in virtual black and white. the certification of the don't ask don't tell repeal. >> your hands are shaking. >> she got the initial news 18 years after coming out as a lesbian military office, don't ask don't tell is nearly history. >> automilitary training said when you see a wrong you step up and do the right thing. for me, coming out was the right thing. >> reporter: she won her case against the policy and was allowed to serve autoher military career out of the closet. >> it was better than living in the closet. that's for sure. i could go to workout fear. i was able to be myself and i actually established tighter bonds with my coworkers. that's her standing next to president obama when he repealed do

. >>> and will new york's governor repeace joe biden on the president's 2012 ticket? the white house is putting those rumors to rest. >> and same-sex couples apply for manner licenses in the umpire state. the line application is offering up two choices, bride or groom and it has gender- neutral terminology. new york was the sixth state to legalize gay marm two weeks ago. guy marriage two weeks ago. . >> it's a high-stakes battle of wills. democrats and republicans are looking for cuts ahead of a vote to raise the nation's limit. the clock is ticking. the u.s. will reach that debt limit in a few weeks. craigs who bell has the story. >> reporter: during a twitter town hall from the east room of the white house, president obama said he believes that lawmakers from both parts will agree to a debt reduction plan and vote to raise the nation's debt ceiling and warned of a failure to do so. >> our credit could be downrated, interest rates could go up and cause a whole new spiral into a second recession or worse. >> reporter: the battle lines are drawn on capitol hill. >> and

negotiations of a potential deal have been between the white house in the form of vice president joe biden and senate minority leader mitch mcconnell who spent years together in the senate very familiar with each other and biden, of course, led those biden talks that went on for months and sketched out a framework between democrats and republicans. i think it's important to note just in how things could play out or really what this means with the delay in the vote. but delaying this vote in the senate from what would have been 1:00 a.m. sunday morning to 1:00 p.m. sunday by 12 hours, would allow time should there be some discussions, some movement toward some agreement between the white house and senate republicans, it would allow time for the bill to be amended. this is something that's very important and i'm hearing this from democratic and republican sources that it would allow time for that bill to be amended if some sort of framework would be worked out. i think it's also important to take note that one of the big issues that the white house has had with the house republican plan and

>> look, the president, the dealings with joe biden senators and congressmen, is there. $400 billion in revenues, $2 trillion in cuts. that is 1/5, and republicans walked away, saying we cannot touch it. >> everybody knows the republican leadership is afraid of its own members. they think they cannot get anything psed or they might be dethroned if they have some sort of tax increase. the democrats are just, frankly it demagogues about medicare and medicaid and social security. if ever there was a time to package these things together -- example increases in the age qualifications for medicare, which would add a lot of money to the federal budget if youou don't have to spend it, plus revenue enhancements, aka taxes -- this is the time for everybody to experience pain no one wants to experience. >> everybody seems to be in campaign mode. where are the democrats the party of the downtrodden? the republicans the party of the very wealthy. is that playing out in the electorate? >> i don't think the electorate realizes how serious this is. they are playing with fire really bad things can h

john boehner is pointing fingers at the president and joe biden is locked in the heated bad l with awon't release his teddy gram. but last night in his televised presponse to john boehner, the president stooped to a new, new low. >> a predecessor of mine maid the case for a balanced approach by saying this: "would you rather reduce deficits and interest rates from raising revenue from those who are not now paying their fair share or bold you rather accept larger budget deficits, higher interest rates and unemployment?" those words were spoken by ronald reagan. >> stephen: how dare you use the "r" word? (laughter) that word belongs to us! (laughter) we conservative americans can say reagan to each other because we use it affectionately. i say it all the time. what up my gipper? gippa please. all the gip pers i the gippers y "no taxes!" but i'm not surprised that obama is playing the reagan card. she's just trying to shore up one of the left's long discredited ideas: the united states government. to the house republicans we elected last november, they saw this failure of leadership com

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>> look, the president, the dealings with joe biden senators and congressmen, is there. $400 billion i revenues, $2 trillion in cuts. that is 1/5, and republicans walked away, saying we can ct touch it. >> everybody knows the republican leadership is afraid of its own members. they think they cannot get anything passed or they mightht be dethroned if they have some sort of tax increase. the democrats are just, frankly it demagogues about medicare and medicaid and social security. if ever there was a time to package these things together -- example increases in the age qualifications for medicare, which would add a lot of money to the federal budget if you don't have to spend it, plus revee enhancements, aka taxe -- this is the time for everybody to experience pain no one wants to experience. >> everybody seems to be in campaign mode. where are the democrats the party of the downtrodden? the republicans the party of the very wealthy. is that playing out in the electorate? >> i don't think the electorate realizes how serious this is. they are playing with fire really bad things can hap

vice-president joe biden is working to gain the support of educators nationwide. the vice president spoke at the end of a convention of the national education association today. members of the nea will vote tomorrow on whether the union will endorse president obama for re-election. the union's endorsement is a vital and he took a swing at republicans to make his case. >> the new republican party has undertaken the most direct assault on labor, not just in my lifetime but without any hyperbole, literally since the 1920's. >> with more than 3 million members, the nea is the largest labor union in the u.s. it is endorsed every democratic candidate since 1976. this friday marks the end of an era for the u.s. space program. "atlantis"is scheduled to lift off this friday as the last mission. astronauts will run a re-a supply mission to the space station. after 30 years, some wonder if the investments were worth it, but officials say the knowledge we have gained is irreplaceable cured >> it has been remarkable with what has been able to accomplish. it has been standing i

but joe biden, who is a democrat, supported one in the 1990's. it depends on how you craft it and make exceptions. if you are in wartime, you don't want to have those strictures. it is not a good idea to introduce at the last minute. >> the cap is 18.5% of reagan's eight budgets averaged 22% of the revenues being gdp of the country. the gipper would be drummed out of the party -- >> 18.5 is the average of the postwar era -- >> it is absolutely not. you are wrong, wrong, wrong. >> i blame both parties for the stalemate. >> all the people who are responsible for this are elected to do a job. if i did my job like that, i would be fired. >> citizens interviewed by cnn in response to the endless debate on the debt ceiling. 61% of the american people believe that if the debt ceiling is not raised, the nation will be in more hot water than it is now. a 52% believed the president has acted responsibly, 33% believed republicans acted responsibl y. who benefits the least? >> washington. there is a slight advantage to the president when it istacked up to re

. >> shannon: let's hear from joe biden. he speaking to a union group on friday, hinting at the relationship they have. take a listen. >> by the way, if you vote republicans -- this isn't political. i'm not supposed to say this. let me put it this way. don't come to me if you do! [ laughter you are on your own, jack! >> shannon: i don't know if he is truly worried that the longs of union employees are going to suddenly start voting for g.o.p. >> i think he was referring to the fact that the unions have been under assault by the republican governors. i think that it was a reference to that. i think what nina was talking about, though, i don't think the administration is doing any of the stuff because they're worried about the unions not supporting them. they're worried about the unions not supporting democrats running for congress. the reality is if you look back, barack obama built his own organization. and he really did not rely on other people. he was not, if the union support him and don't support him, wouldn't have made