>> i aprm going to -- i love to joe biden. i have a little crush on joe biden. i do. >> i could tell. >> i kind of get a little crazy eyed about joe biden. i love him. >> he's a likable guy, no question about it. president who says that might be one of the best vps in history. >> and obama care is awesome. i mean, do you believe anything he says anymore? i'm sorry. he likes joe. joe's been loyal to the president. that should count for something. i'm glad he had his back. if you don't think they weren't considering hillary, then you don't know politics. >> where's joe been? >> he didn't play the phone call that got to the wrong -- they dial the phone and they say, here, sir, leave a message. it's not his fault. >> i think it's interesting -- >> we're going to play the gaffe reel but we played it -- >> the gaffes are fantastic. i love that big stick gaffe more than anybody. that's my favorite. i think he's been a good vice president for president obama. >> he's totally authentic. you guys complain about obama reading from the teleprompter. this guy obviously doesn

the thing is, joe biden has been incredibly valuable.his is a was that does not like to wine and dine senators and members of congress. so the pivot point in terms of getting things done on the hill has often been biden. biden has a good relationship with mitch mcconnell. able to go to the senate, a senator so long. has amazing relationships there. he has been able to get a lot done substantively for the president on the hill. the point guy in a lot of ways for getting done things. a valuable vice president. besides the fact, the guy was a noun/verb, ended giuliani's political career. how do you get rid of a guy? he is a good vice president, represents the president on capitol hill. doing it well. >> one thing, i think there was an expectation with biden. that he would be more lick a dick cheney figure in that when they put him on the ticket, he was 65. don't think they thought this is a guy who will spend eight years. like al gore. trying to position himself for 2016. probably. >> presumed he wouldn't beep. awe off elder stateman in the

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, i hate to say that dumping joe biden -- >> so harsh. >> replacing joe biden with hillary clinton.ow do you think joe biden is feeling right now having read that? and should they have changed? >> you know, i think joe biden understands the talk that goes on and the gossip that goes on here in washington, you know, he's -- he's a grown-up. and i think he knows washington better than almost anybody. so, i don't think -- >> come on, maria. >> i don't think it bothers him at all. i really don't. and i think he also realizes and the white house is good at pushing back, this was never really a consideration. did they do focus groups, did they do polls? sure, if you remember obama was going through a really tough time. a lot of democrats were wondering if it would be a very good move. but at the end of the day and if you remember at the point where it was the biden vice presidential debate, it was joe biden who actually brought obama back from the brink. and i don't think obama ever really considered this, and according to the book and to people that i've talked to, it was never brought t

it was vintage joe biden.ouldn't help but think that joe biden i think reading between the lines of john and mark's excellent book and i've read it all, it's fantastic. that i think joe biden was trying to show them how loyal he'd been and what a great relationship he had with the president. there's plenty of evidence of that in here. and yet the president's aides, were behind his back trying to find out whether to dump him or not. i think it's a problem. >> i got a comment to what he's up to. you write in the book that, quote, biden wanted to expand his network while he was campaigning for obama he thought he should meet with new people, stroke some donors, strike up fresh relationships. you seem to be portraying in your reporting here that biden's still in that trajectory of running for president. everyone figures hillary clinton is probably going to run. we don't know for sure. but it seems to me he's going to start making more moves. gene mccarthy once said it's easier to run for president than it is to st

clinton or maybe vice president joe biden, a new book claims it could have been hillary clinton instead of joe biden as vp right now. >>> let's talk about with it -- about christie with hillary and the vice president -- let's say this again. let's talk about christie and hillary as vice president with two of cnn's political commentators, joining me are maria cardona and kevin madden. i feel like it's "cross fire." thanks for joining us, kevin and maria. >> thanks, don, good to see you. >> polls show chris christie cruising towards re-election. new jersey is a democratic state and he's apparently making inroads among women, among hispanics and other minorities. >> right. >> is he rewriting the republican playbook for winning traditionally democratic voters? >> yeah, i think it's an important sort of case study for how republicans can do a better job of winning not only the middle but constituencies that are not traditionally within the republican party. so, i think the reason -- one of the ways he's done that is he's

and, you know, the fact is he did talk to joe biden about it. they had it out. i think they genuinely like each

he didn't know they were polling on joe biden. but when he heard about it and when people talked about it and it appeared in a book, you can just imagine the conversation the president had he to have with joe biden because i'm sure joe biden was on the ceiling upset about it. and he had to kind of talk him down and say i didn't know, nor would i ever do that. i don't believe he would have, by the way. i think the president enjoys having joe biden around and considers him valuable. >> and they met the next morning i think after the book came out. so you can imagine that meeting to assuage his sort of concerns or upset. >> if turp joe biden and you read that and you had had to talk to the press for six months about how that wasn't going to occur and it was not in the president's mind and he was never considering replacing you with hillary clinton and then suddenly you read in the book they belowed about it, would you be upset. >> and embarrassed obviously. thank you so much. we're going to be talking about the miami dolphins player

it was vintage joe biden.n't help but think that joe biden i think reading between the lines of john and mark's excellent book and i've read it all, it's fantastic. that i think joe biden was trying to show them how loyal he'd been and what a great relationship he had with the president. there's plenty of evidence of that in here. and yet the president's aides, were behind his back trying to find out whether to dump him or not. i think it's a problem. >> i got a comment to what he's up to. you write in the book that, quote, biden wanted to expand his network while he was campaigning for obama he thought he should meet with new people, stroke some donors, strike up fresh relationships. you seem to be portraying in your reporting here that biden's still in that projectry of running for president. everyone figures hillary clinton is probably going to run. we don't know for sure. but it seems to me he's going to start making more moves. gene mccarthy once said it's easier to run for president than it is to stop ru

and, you know, the fact is he did talk to joe biden about it. they had it out.hey genuinely like each other, but it's clear the research was done. >> so they talked about it subsequent to the book being published and the heat coming on him. >> yes. >> i agree with that. same question to you, joan. always the thing in politics one of the earliest things i learned was listen to what they actually say. did he say he knew this was polled? did he say he approved it? disapproved it? did he make a decision based on the polling? what did he tell us? >> i think he told us that no one has denied that somebody polled this question. i think he acknowledged that. i think he may have also left the door open that maybe he overheard something from another office that maybe they were doing this. but at the end of the day, he gave joe biden a big, old hug. that's what matters. later in the interview he has a dig to his staff saying folks like to talk about things to make themselves feel important. so whoever leaked this garbage to heilemann and halperin, i know what your game is.

i think if hillary clinton doesn't run, joe biden does run right now.quick thing on your point and michael's point on the tension among the staff. this is not new for joe biden. he's had a political team around him since 1987. that's when he first started thinking about running for president. so he brought all that with him. one point i would say about the substituting or the thought of substituting, as you know, chris, biden was picked in 2008 because he was the kind of steady hand on the tiller. he knew washington. there were concerns that barack obama might not be ready, biden was aimed at quieting them. fast forward four years. what barack obama needed in 2008, isn't what he needed in 2012. i think that's inevitably true with presidents. i think it's why you always see the phenomenon of they think about the possibility of changing the v.p. and decide not to. >> i think it looks bad to dump a guy. the times report that the game change authors obtained a memo from governor chris christie's vetting process to be vice president. quote, according to a me

joe biden.lies. what it does imply is that if you're running for re-election, you do what it takes to get re-elected. if they had polling data that showed them that hillary clinton would provide a greater advantage over joe biden and help obama save his presidency, they would have done it, but they did not get that from their polling. they did not find she would provide an advantage over biden. so it was never seriously considered. >> so jump ahead to 2016, jonathan. who does the president support? would he support joe biden or hillary clinton? >> i don't think it's going to come to that. if hillary clinton runs, joe biden won't run. in all likelihood, obama will do what chuck schumer just did this weekend, which is endorse hillary clinton. >> okay. what about what chris matthews told me yesterday. he said, look, joe biden is already putting steps in place because we don't know if hillary clinton is going to run. what if ultimately she does not run? >> then you're talking about a very interestin

>> reporter: right now, joe biden. the vice president is headed to china next week to sit down and talk to them. but this is all happening in the middle of war games between the u.s. and japan in the region, and escalating tensions here at the pentagon, what u.s. officials, the line they are trying to push is that they routinely fly through this international air space, that these are reconnaissance flights, nothing unusual they say. they're not trying to poke china in the eye, they are not trying to escalate tensions. but the question now is can china keep this up. has china overplayed its hand. does it have the midair refueling capability to keep sending its fighters into the air. does it have the radar coverage to keep looking for these planes. what if the u.s., japan and south korea just keep sending larger and larger numbers of planes into this zone? what are the chinese going to do about it, are we headed to an incident of potential miscalculation? nobody thinks there's going to be a shooting war. no one is talki

vice president joe biden has done it again. he called a second wrong number, trying to congratulate boston's new mayor, marty walsh, take a listen. >> marty, it's joe biden. nice to see you win and nice to see labor win. anything i can do to help you from the white house in terms of your needs in boston, holler, man. >> well, a huffington post reader says she got that call tuesday night and a man named marty walsh, not the new mayor, told the "boston globe" he got a call from biden that night too. you can read more by heading to thomas roberts' facebook page. [ brent ] this guy's a pro, herbie. [ herbie ] no doubt about it brent, a real gate keeper. here's kevin in the nissan sentra. lamb to the slaughter. mom's baked cookies but he'll be lucky to make it inside. and here's the play. oh, dad did not see this coming. [ crowd cheering ] now if kevin can just seize the opportunity. he's seen it. it's all over. nothing but daylight. yes i'd love a cookie. [ male announcer ] make a powerful first impression. the nissan sentra. now g

saying it's, quote, a matter of great moral urgency. >>> remember earlier this week, vice president joe bidenmade a call to the wrong marty walsh? he meant to call the mayor elect. it happened not once, but twice. biden left a voice mail saying, anything i can do to help you from the white house in terms of your needs in boston, holler, man. any other marty walshs out there, we would love to hear from you. >>> lots of reaction from "time" magazine's cover of chris christie dubbing him the elephant in the room. >> in their offense, i think they chos the least offensive. chris christie having a whale of a time. between a rock and a lard place. that's not good and hail to the chef. i don't think any of those -- >> well, christie will likely address that and more on "meet the press" this sunday. one cartoonist getting flak for his disney icons including hillary clinton as princess 2016 and ruth bader ginsburg as supreme princess. it's all satire and there shouldn't be one art type for a hero. >>> bill de blasio is a human, warm-blooded vertebra, exhales carbon die ox side and is a biped. >> i lov

his answer on joe biden, i believe 1,000%.een campaign malpractice for the obama team not to research everything. that's what they. do remember when the reelection campaign started, wee still at a very, very sluggish period of the recovery. the republican polling number were pretty good. his history told you with unemployment so high, it would be very hard for the president to win re-election so of course they started everything. did they share all that with the president? he seemed to indicate they did not. this president has been very loyal to joe biden and i take him at his word. if they had come to him with that idea, they would have had to have some pretty overwhelming date. a he does believe joe biden has had his back and they have developed a very good relationship. >> as you say, that appeared very genuine. jim, i want to ask you how hard it was for the president to apologize and to do that. we keep showing the president saying i am sorry. it didn't come out quite that cleanly so let me play what he said on that. he ki

is joe biden going to believe what he's telling these people? r the american workers? >> let me say no matter what joe says, this is not a good deal for american workers. in fact, i can say there has not been a good trade deal for american workers. every trade deal that's been passed has led to deficits, loss of manufacturing, led to trade deficits, left a lower standard of living, left lower wages behind. i think what they're doing with the tpp is another deal that's being negotiated too much in secret. if it follows the standard deal of all the previous deals they've done, let's look at nafta. who said what and what was the truth? let's look at the trade deal with china. who said what and what's the truth? we're having 300 and $400 billion trade deficit with china. now we're going to vietnam? do you think we can compete with the vietnamese worker? let's look at what happened in south korea. how much has the trade deficit blown up since we did the deal with south korea? >> why is the obama administration doing this? is labor getting thrown under

if joe biden does run for president, the i believe joe biden was one of the greatest vice presidents in history will go down as -- i assure you will hear again, peter. he's right. i'm sure he didn't hear about it. the truth of the matter is, they do do this testing. it does undercut biden. the president was trying to say if this got to me, i would never prove it. biden is great. he needed it. >> thanks. have a great weekend. >>> we'll take you to the president's remarks in new orleans live when they happen. quickly to a topic americans are focused on the bullying investigation rocking nfl. the lawyer for miami dolphins player jonathan martin, the player who left the team after the alleged bullying released a statement last night making a new allegation about a physical attack he said he endured. joining me mike florio. thanks for your help. here is part of the statement on screen. jonathan martin's toughness is not at issue. the issue is his treatment by teammates. jonathan endured harassment that went far beyond the traditional locker room hazing. very quickly today you posted a sta

mark, if hillary clinton had tested much better, than joe biden, what would have happened then? >> craig, i'm still convinced that biden would have been on the ticket. even if hillary clinton tested better, i think it would have sent signals of panic that president obama was dumping biden for hillary clinton. the end of the day, the person on the vice presidential ticket doesn't matter all that much. that person can lose you the race but they rarely win it for you. the sign that somehow that would have been a big sign to everyone that team obama was behind and needed to do something very major to shake things up. president obama had a four-point national win over romney and very decisive victory in the electoral college. he didn't need that at all. and i think they probably made the right calculation, even if the polls showed hillary clinton would have tested much more positively. >> i'm waiting to hear what joe biden says about all of this. i'm sure it will be quite the sound bite. let's look forward to next week quickly. what do you see on the political horizon? >> i have a fee

the president is loyal to joe biden.s a fact. >> i have to say, he had a chance here to sort of really give a big push to joe biden. look, he's already been on "60 minutes" with hillary clinton and here it was like oh, he's been the best vice president in history and he's my friend. >> better than he gave to kathleen sebelius. >> exactly. >> this was a lot better. >> so texas governor rick perry was in iowa. he's clearly prepping for another run for the white house. let's listen to what he said. rather interesting. >> we're losing the country we love to a government that is too big, too arrogant, too controlling of our every day lives. our leaders have forgotten how to govern. believe me, i know a few things about forgetting. >> obviously during the key debate moment where he forgot -- >> the three agencies he would eliminate. >> exactly. >> should he have even brought this up? >> absolutely. >> because he's still battling this going into another cycle. >> surest way to get rid of something is to make fun of yourself. he

. >> my outstanding vice president, joe biden is here. >> reporter: but behind the scenes with obama's prospects for a second term in doubt, top aides reportedly considered replacing biden with hillary clinton on the 2012 ticket. >> how serious were they looking into having hillary clinton be the vice president? >> it was serious enough that it was intentionally polled and focus grouped. >> the president didn't know them about polling and doing focus groups. >> very possible. joe biden didn't know, certainly. >> reporter: acoulding to the in the in the, that's one of the explosive revelations in the new book double down where mark halperin and john heilman said biden dodged a bullet he never saw coming and never would know anything about, if the obamans saw it coming. >> they don't spend the money unless they were seriously exploring something. it was only known about a half dozen of the top obama senior advisers. >> reporter: including then chief of staff, bill daly. >> he confirmed reporting in the book saying it was for his due diligence as chief of staff to explore the possibility

but it brought back memories of the joe biden headlines, like joe biden shows up to the inaugurationa pony tail. >>> and government in action, only moments after the members of the legislature celebrated the passage of the marriage equality bill. when the state representative put the law to the test, carrying an engagement ring with him just so if the law passed he would propose to his partner. this happened minutes after he showed up to the celebration. >> i wanted to take an hour to tell the second-storey. i love that you care more about other people than yourself. i love you so much i want to spend the rest of my life with you. >> oh, my god! >> they plan to marry next summer when the law takes effect. congratulations to the couple and the entire state. and the third most awesome thing on the internet today, people are finding out what we already knew, the admitted crack-smoking mayor in canada is entertaining. he got more from steven colbert and the other comics. >> i am personally inspired by the mayor's admission to come clean about my own mistakes. have i ever smoked crack? ye

was joe biden about to be booted for hillary clinton? did obama despise bill?from washington with the explosive details from the sec well to "game change" and joining me to talk about and and more, who else on halloween but an -- ann caulter? >> and boston strong and stronger. the city bounces back after the bombings. i'll talk to the most injured man from the attack and find out even if you're not a red sox fan, we all have a reason to celebrate. >>> the big story, the breaking news on the 2012 white house race, brutal and personal and we only know half of it. "the new york times" is

joe biden call? we have a voice mail to prove it. we begin with the president's exclusive interview with chuck todd. obama apologizing for promising americans if they like their health insurance, they would be able to keep it under the affordable care act. >> i meant what i said. we worked hard to make sure we implemented it. obviously, we didn't do a good enough job and i regret that. even though it's a small percentage of folks who may be disadvantaged. it's scary to them. i am sorry they are finding themselves in this situation. we have to work hard to make sure they know we hear them and we are going to do everything we can to deal with folks who find themselves in a tough position as a consequence of this. >> during the interview, he responded to critics of hhs secretary, kathleen sebelius. >> under these difficult circumstances for the last four and a half years has done a great job in setting up the insurance markets so there is a good product out there for people to get. she doesn't write code. she wasn't the i.t. person. >>

. >> it will be -- >> the one person we're not talking about is joe biden. how miffed would you be if you were the sitting vice president for two terms, you ran for president yourself twice, you were brought in for your experience, he is an afterthought. why why is that? >> because hillary clinton came this close, very, very close to becoming the nominee of the democratic party. i think because of that, and because so many people went out there and voted for her, that there's still this kunger. >> sometimes it's easy to overlook some great people. >> he's the vp, overlooking the vp. >>> enough about the democrats, i want to talk about the republicans now. i am sure that you have noticed today's very public fight between liz and mary cheney. when we get back, i'm going to ask governor pawlenty, whatever happened to the new welcoming republican party? i started part-time, now i'm a manager.n. my employer matches my charitable giving. really. i get bonuses even working part-time. where i work, over 400 people are promoted every day. healthcare starting under $4

so they poll tested the idea of switching out joe biden for hillary clinton who was obviously popular secretary of state and numbers were huge and did and ultimately decided putting her on wouldn't gain the president enough to kind of overcome the sort of blow back there might be by replacing joe biden. now, there is no evidence, in fact, that president obama knew of this. the report of the new york times and certainly in the write up doesn't look as though this book found out whether the president knew and in fact, i know you seen the tweet from david pluff that ran the first campaign and heavily involved in the second said there was not ever any consideration of a vp and an hrc switch, that is a biden, hillary clinton switch, not even entertained by the only person who mattered or most of us back to halloween. that's david plouffe. interesting talk and remember, piers, at the time, in the late fall of 2011, there was a lot of talk about well, what if he switched out joe biden for hillary clinton? >> what about the relationship between barack obama and bill clinton? it seems from thi

a lot of discussion about what's in the book, about maybe hillary would be added to the ticket, joe biden would be dumped. i asked her about that when i interviewed her back in april of 2012. >> if the president of the united states says madam secretary, i need you on the ticket this year in order to beat romney, are you ready to run as his vice presidential running mate? >> that is not going to happen. that's like saying if the olympic committee called you up and said, are you ready to run the marathon, would you accept? well, it's not going to happen. >> i disagree. >> o. well -- >> it's unlikely, i will say that. >> it's more than unlikely i want if he sees in july he's going down, he doesn't want to be a one-term -- >> leon and i are in this awkward position.

there is a game change book and the dump joe biden isn't the only one on it. >>> electronics cleared for take off, i'll talk to the computer geek that helped make the faa change its mind about in flight electronics. >>> a newly discovered tunnel that carries drugs into the united states by the ton. we begin with breaking news. >>> inside the reporting that political correspondents kill for and they did it with the blockbuster game change and done it again. the new book is called "double down, game change 2012" and loaded with details how the obama campaign explained dumping joe biden and reed got the idea reid didn't pay income tax and more. the book doesn't come out until next week but jonathan martin has all the incite details and joins us now. it's fascinating on your reporting in this. how serious were they looking into having hillary clinton be the vice president? >> it was serious, not that it was intentionally polled and focused grouped. campaigns don't spend the money unless they are seriously exploring something. it was only known but about a half dozen of the top obama seni