onthey wanted access and they wanted influence joe bidessen and joe bidessen has been around a long timend he has to know exactly why his son was being paid. >> let me ask you about that a soulsome liberal, so-called rother said there was a rule thatat bidens have that hunter never told his father that vice president what kind of business he was involved in. >> right, and even though later it was in the press, yeah. krisma hunter largely responsible for it and some others that there's no evidence that joe biden actually read the newspaper. >> right. right. [laughter] so it's simply not conceivable is it, that joe biden would know what his son was up to. >> first of all if he had been point pirn on ukraine policy which he was he would know about barima major energy producer energy was a key component of ukraine coming back, in fact, joe biden was responsible for us id program designed to regenerator to benefit but we know on interview that joe biden gave to new yorker that, in fact, he did talk to his dad about this and according to hunter biden his father told him i hope you know what yo