when joe boyd bide, something comes out of his mouth. it is what he genuinely believes. we'll see 5 or 6 million and not the 7 million figure. maybe i am wrong and maybe i am naive and low balling, but i don't think so. non the program this week you will discuss it for sure? >> we will. we'll talk about ukraine, first story, two foreign policy experts and we'll talk to them about the situation in ucrepe and the issue is where is vladimar putin in all of this? putin put a lot of pressure on the ukranian leaders to stay with him and not to go to the west or eu and this is a drive for a greater russia and put together some of the major pieces of the old soviet union and talking about obama care and domestic issues and the governors in town including governor scott walker of wisconsin, and head of the democratic government association and governor walker, a possible 2016 candidate for the runs. >> we'll see you on sunday. >> democrats, facing a push back on raising the minimum wage. the chief of the nonpartisan government's office vigorously defending the report that a raise