joe bush with joe biden is under official investigation over classified documents found at his residence as the president's own lawyers reported the discovery of the additional documents at his home garage biden claimed the documents were kept safely alongside his car. i material next to your corvette. what were you thinking then? yeah, they're gonna get a chance to speak on all of this god willing soon. but as i said earlier this week, people in, by the way, my corvettes in a lock garage. okay. so it's not like to sit down the street, but anyway, yes, as well as my corvette, as the president said, he takes classified information and materials seriously. and as we have said, we have cooperated from the moment. we inform the archives that a small number of documents were found and we will continue to cooperate. it's the 2nd set of classified documents found in biden's private residence. the previous batch was found at a bite and affiliated thing tank in november and made public earlier this week. the discovery triggered a broader search with joe biden, claiming he didn't know what was ins

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joe. but you're bush. joe, how you doing brother? i'm doing great. i mean, other than the i feel pretty lovely this week. >> all right. let's get right to it. let's go play for a quick second. your pete carroll for the last 2 days we've been implementing a game plan today. you put it in. >> with your team, what is on the top of that game plan on how you try to attack and beat this forty-niners team? >> i think it starts with trying to bottle up christian mccaffrey. i mean, this guy's been an absolute superstar, obviously throughout the entirety of his career. but with the forty-niners and he adds an element to the checkdown game that you just can't tackle an open the last thing i'm going to let him do is break tackles and get those legs and those strides going in the open is greatest. george kittle is as great as brandon aiyuk spin this year. i think it starts with him and then i expect pete carroll to throw some some pre snap stuff and then post snap, switch it up for the young rookie. i mean, this is one of the legendary defensive coaches in the hi

and then you have the establishment figures like nancy pelosi and joe biden you could say george w. bush and kevin mccarthy, and mitch mcconnell. and they are still there. so, you know, maybe there has not been enough of a challenge to the establishment. i hope in a way democrats take note and i hope at some point they do the same thing if they want to make their party and country better. >> thing, really quickly. you can affect change. but the way that you do it, usually is win enough seats. and then realize your political environment that you are in, on a legislative sense. it you don't have the numbers, and if you can't control the legislative agenda you are then battling with each other in your own caucus, sometimes that is really messy along the way. it could be that this does make significant changes as far as spending. but they will have a hard time negotiating with democrats to get things like ddebt ceiling and other things. kennedy: spending is the name of the game, that is the issue for a lot of the holdouts, difference between the squad, is they want to limit government, and r

joe biden. >> the offices of bama, clinton and bush have all saud nothing has chaunged since last fall after theythat all the classified material was turned over to the national archives but what's sort of unique as we have this conversation is for senators, for lawmakers allowed to see this type of intelligence, they do it in what we refer to as a skiff. it's a special area that's closed. where they can make sure it's protected. they return it before they depart. but for a president or vice president, they are allowed to view classified intelligence in the white house more broadly and perhaps there aren't the same restriction strixs for the commander-in-chief. >> that's right. we don't know the level of classification exactly that was found so far. at least with the former vice president ask with joe biden, but in a lot of these cases, it is easier for some of these materials to get comingled with personal materials. let's say the former president had decided to take a classified briefing, something labeled top secret up to the residence. when he was done with it discarded with it in the appropr

you, know what president bush saw with that bad transition was, there is no sense of inevitability. his momentum got broken. i was thinking, you can do the joe biden transition, look folks. just pivot to a different topic. but, bush wouldn't like that. >> no, so we are all speech writers, but not all speeches were the same, and not all ways the president gets the message across is the same. so, whether it's the state of the union, a major address, a press conference just talking to reporters, just doing something on social media, where do you feel like president bush and president obama were best? and, where do you feel like they were not as good, and how, you know, any stories about good or bad examples? >> he was pretty good in all these settings. i always -- the issue of authenticity comes up. nowadays, you hear people say, well, it's more authentic if someone just tweets something off the top of their head, or it's more authentic if they are doing an interview, or just something more off the cuff, town hall meeting, that sort of thing. and, you can be authentic. of course, you can be your authentic self, but you also are authentic when y

. >> joe: ashley, can we remember a time, whether talking about trump or obama or bush or clinton or asked are you running for president again, all would answer, of course i am, you can't say i'm doing a great job, look at 2022, and say i'm wishy washy in terms of running for president or not. yes or no, very simple question and yet he's dodging on that, i wonder why? >> todd: this vacation was supposed to be used to make that determ determination, you should assume you are going to get a question like that and have a prepared answer. giants are in the playoffs, joe. >> joe: that is correct, bears got beat, lions just scored again three minuteses ago. congratulations, giants back in the playoffs, have fun losing first round. >> todd: pete hegseth vikings will be the rematch and i think the giants take it. happy new year. >> joe: happy new year, go giants. >> todd: suspect in the machete attack on three nypd officers was already on the radar. claudia tenney join us about that. >> ashley: hi, steve. >> steve: they are the new jersey giants, okay. >> todd: i'm jersey guy, i like the fac

joe biden went back on his promise. it was suc bh a big deal when george herbert walker bush said, read my lips, nolker s new taxes. ai taxesndand then he went backs pledge. how come joe biden, how come.t you're a liberal democrat? you're also an honest person. hv i've known you for years. for years. why can't you sa why can't you say joe biden broke his promise and now will hurt the poor middle class and people on fixed incomes?ss >> because i don't think that's really what happened. so first and foremost, i don'tta identify as a democratic socialist. and joe biden is certainly not a democrat. >> well, han joeg on a second. but you raised those taxes. e >> you admit you raise those taxes. well, no, it's a corporate no, l there were a number of built incentives built in to being greener about your life, movingr to augment electric cars, natural gas, solar has s tax, but he hasople a crude oil tax and he has a coal tax. so people that heat their homes and cool their homes, they're all going to pay a lot more that is being paid for by every american, regardless of income. well, right. check me back when. no, it should

bush in 2006. there are approval ratings all basically right where joe biden's was this year.ates he was a disaster for republicans. they lost 40 seats and. a house. 14 was a disaster for democrats, especially in the senate. side they lost nine senate seats, and that he was 13 seat loss for democrats in 2014. they didn't know that many seats left to lose. otherwise it probably would've been bigger. 30 seat lost for republicans and this is what a low approval rating has meant in modern times. that is, number a lot of publicans or expecting that this would mean something similarly politically catastrophic. yet it didn't. why? what broken democrats favor? what stands out is this. what you're looking at here is the independent vote in the midterm elections. democrats actually won the independent vote by two points, and all of these recent presidents we are just going through had rough midterm elections, you see that in their midterms the independents broke for the opposition party by double digits. that's what we have been conditions to expect. if a president is unpopular, the ind

joe biden's victory speech and inaugural address. meacham is a presidential historian who has written biographies of five american presidents, from andrew jackson to george h.w. bush. >> lincoln and bush both called on us to choose the right over the convenient. >> so, what do the highs and lows of our past tell us about the challenges we face? >> as long as democrac is a human enterprise, which it is, then human virtue have as strong a chance as human vice to prevail. >> and should president biden run again? what does jon meacham say now? >> "firing line with margaret hoover" is made possible in part by... and by... corporate funding is prod by... >> jon meacham, welcome to "firing line." >> thank you. >> you're a presidential historian and pulitzer prize-winning author who has written books on thomas jefferson, andrew jackson, franklin delano roosevelt, george h.w. bush, and now abraham lincoln. what do you think is the essential quality for a successful american president? >> a commitment to something larger than his or ultimately her own power. it's the one theme -- one of the themes that connects all of these lives. not that they were perfect, because they we

you as president joe biden last year signed in order to deploy hundreds of american soldiers to somalia to combat in certain groups. he did that through a bush, aaron, 911 legislative acts without the approval of congress. the intervention was warmly match by somali, his leader who was previously voted out of power on corruption claims, but managed to return to office last may we heard from my can kenyan security expert on a former special forces officer who served in somalia. he says hardship in the country has given way to the rise of extremist groups. and if you look at predict malia with the level of instability that somebody compliment to somebody, so some money is money to go through for the longest. you'd expect some quite really kilted management of the affairs of the people, a government, the government government are hard to really enjoy some reality points on monday. how about to be impacted by lot of challenges. i mean, if you look at the problem dynamic seems that somebody and of course with government will spaces that i'm allowed to go like for, you know, different functions to come up and a kind of space. and when you drop in

it was president george bush the second that did so. joe biden was a senator. said if he did so he would do all in his power to see that that black female associate justice that president george bush intended to nominate would not be confirmed. host: several things there, trevor. care to respond? guest: some of the things the caller was talking about -- i think you will see republicans in the same way that democrats when president trump was in office -- you will see republicans looking to investigate the white house, the biden administration, the hunter biden matter. i guarantee you that will be a subject of committee investigations. on the front where he was talking up money to ukraine got money in general is a huge issue and divide between the two parties. where democrats like to spend more than republicans. one of the problems is -- promises republicans made when they were campaigning was to get control over government spending. this is one area where they have power because congress -- the only thing congress really is required to do is pass spending bills.

so flush them out. us president joe biden last year, signed an order to deploy a hundreds of american soldiers to somalia to combat in surgeons. he did that through a bush year at $911.00 legislative act without the approval of congress. the intervention was warmly met by somali as leader who was previously voted out of power on corruption planes, but suddenly swiftly managed to return the office last may well, we heard from a kenyan security expert and former special forces officer who served in somalia. he says hardship in the country has basically given way to the rise of extremists. and if you look at produce a malia, we've been level low, been the ability to monday governmental this monday. so monday it's money to go through for the longest. you'd expect some quite celtic management phase of the people and government to government and government that i had to really enjoy some reality points on monday. how about inputted by the challenges? i mean, if you look at the code dynamics seems that we've been governed, it will spaces that are allowable for different functions to come up and compound them says a militia kind of space. and when you ruffling

did it not happen, but joe biden, who was so underestimated by so many people, turns and the best midterm performance of any american president with the exception of george w. bush after 9/11, jon kennedy after the -- all the way back to 1934. 88 years, you have to go, to find someone fdr who did this well. >> you mentioned, michael, the huge subordinate events that caused the midterms to go different really. abortion was the event and the cycle. you can just overturn the rights of half the population and have that not impact your political party. and so, in a way, it's mitch mcconnell's fault and not donald trump's. >> first, yes, it's absolutely abortion. it's also coming out of the pandemic. when you mentioned where crises. this is america in a moment of crisis. we had a president who understood how to govern, not just from the white house, but he brilliantly understood the machinations of congress in the senate. how to pull the levers. he came in, saying i'm gonna be a bipartisan president. people chuckled on all sides, and if you look at most of the major pieces of legislation he passed, it was bipartisan. done by both parties. but on the roe v. wade, the r

joe biden ? >> well, a dumps this is a dumpr i fire for sure. i gave the lectures in the bush white house on how to handle how classified information with thec director of the national archives. and hii talk to people who workd in other administrations, my friend craig keshishiand in, who worked in the reagan administration. we've had the same rules in every administration. first, whether it's classified t or not, you do not take it out of there. if you did not bring it into the white house, you do not take it out any documents. second, if it's classified, it has to be stored insitive a sensitive, compartmentalized information. mpartmenfacility. a skiff. well, the pen barden's is notk a skiff. this is a think tank set up his by the university whose president raised tens of millions of dollar sh from the chinese. she's now the ambassador to germany, conveniently forgot about the chinese money in her confirmation hearing. the garage in your home is not a skiff. you can store your chevrolet, your corvette in the garage, not classified information. so even as president of the unit

bush's dog? i don't know. >> joe, and when i talk to people who worked in white houses they say if you did a search of almost any senior cabinet official and looked in the nooks and crannies of their basement you may well find classified documents, and i'm so glad you set it up this way, because we've been talking about the biden situation and now with pence about the larger factors at work here. which is a massive overclassification. 50 million classifications a year. awash in secret documents most which are not real secrets. when you talk about that, the, you know, certain people say just trying to justify now that biden has come up with these classified documents situation, but the trump situation is starkly different from that and you laid out all the reasons why. that was not the problem in the trump situation. there's lots of evidence he wanted those documents, took those documents and kept them after the justice department asked for them back, but in these biden and pence situations, what's really clear is we have a broken system here. there is a system inside white houses for logging and ke

april 25, 2019, joe biden, a little provoked by the fact that a lot of candidates were getting in the race, got in in april. george w. bush, 1999, june 14 is when he got in the race. they got time. february, march, april, may, june. they could do things at home and more importantly they can be talking to people around the country. remember, the moment that you become a presidential candidates formally is the moment that you say to everybody that you haven't been talking to, the activists, the donors, the states, you know, you weren't important enough to me that i talked to you before i became a candidate. >> trace: i'm surprised you didn't have a little escalator in that june 16,2015 -- >> i didn't have a gold pen to put the elevator in. >> trace: that explains it. thanks. a verdict in the trial of an anti abortion activist facing more than a decade in prison after a confrontation outside a clinic. mark meredith is live with more. mark? >> good afternoon to you. moments ago we heard from the legal team representing the pro life activist that was facing federal charges of violating the federal face act or the freedom of ac

what president bush saw was a bad transition there is not a sense of inevitability his momentum got broken. he could do the joe biden transition, look folks. but they would not like that. [laughter] >> we are all speech writers but not all speeches are the same and not always the president gets their message across is the same. you have the union, major address, press conference, social media. when you feel they are best and whether or not is good? was there a good or bad example there? >> it was pretty good and all the settings. the issue of authenticity comes up and nowadays you hear people say well it is more authentic if somebody just tweet something off the top of their head. ports more authentic after doing an interview or something more off the cuff and that sort of thing. it can be your authentic self. but you also are authentic when you're saying what you want to say in the best way you know how to say it. i saw ambassador eric ate them in here at this conference he's writing an essay on reagan's address at moscow state university back in 1988. that speech, the reagan speech of the berlin wall remembe

joe biden is the most unpopular president in the history of presidential polling yet put in the best first term performance since john f. kennedy after george bush and 9/11. it's because the voters looked at the candidates the republicans put forth and said no thanks. they rejected the republicans. and the faction of the republicans now holding the house hostage. if we had a 30 vote majority and there had been a red wave this wouldn't be happening today, because they would not need the five, now growing, faction of votes. so the irony is these people who are doing this are the faction of the republican party that was rejected by the voters in the poll and now they are exercising the power because of the small republican majority. >> sandra: mark, big endorsement by former president trump for mccarthy before the vote, how would you describe that influence? >> negligible. his influence is smaller and smaller and a shrinking former president in terms of his influence in the gop. but you know, the question here is trump is sort of a side show to this. this -- the republican party has to move on beyond trump and they need to pick somebody who is goin

joe biden didn't know anything about it? he knew about it. he just didn't care. if you went to obama's place of residence you would find some documents. if you went to bush'sesidence, you would find some documents. we're very sloppy in the way that we handle documents. host: is that the core problem at the bottom of the, how we handle classified documents? caller: that's why the democrats weaponized the archives in the first place, because they knew that trump would have documents they could point at. host: you talked about the possibility of all presidents doing so. is the classification the real problem? caller: i think that the real problem is that we are sloppy. if we're going to be very, handle these documents in a special manner, we should handle them in a special manner. but we are sloppy. from the archives department on up, we are sloppy in how we are handling these documents, and what we should have is some kind of an olly olly oxen free, and everybody who has documents please turn them in to the archives department. if we really cared. but actually, we don't care about these documents. we just care who's holding them so that we can prosecute them

bush double the death, almost double the deficit. democratic presidents have always cut the deficit, just like joe biden dead in the last year.trillion dollars, if i'm not mistaken. >> correct. why? because when we're in office, we increase revenues, and we look at what are the investments that we make in spending, right? programs allow people to get back into the economy. that's why, if you create 10 million new jobs, and you bring unemployment down to its lowest level, you actually cut the deficit. this is ridiculous, they want to cut and shut down government -- we want to make sure that we continue to invest in the american people. >> congresswoman lee, you're not only on the appropriations committee, you're also on the budget committee. just from your perch, from your vantage point, does it make sense to tie the debt ceiling to future budget talks? >> absolutely not. let me just say, jonathan, i'm happy to be here with you, and my sister, congresswoman -- who has led this caucus in a way that is unbelievable in terms of people clamoring to be members of the progressive caucus. her leadership has been stellar. as a former

voted for ronald reagan twice, for bill clinton twice, barack obama twice, george bush twice and then it's donald trump and joeates like wisconsin, accomplish mish, pennsylvania and keep going back and forth and back and forth and always a battle on who is the most extreme. republicans trying to paint democrats as being extreme for the past five years, ten years. but especially past five years and whether it's the southern border. whether it's lgbtq issues, whether it's -- it's covid. you name it. they've been trying to do it. >> yeah. they've lost that bottle colossally. talking about transswimmers, transathletes. americans care about. 80% of americans don't think somebody transitions after puberty should be able to compete against girls and young women. okay. fine. that's an issue. that's an issue. but you have inflation. and you have gas prices. you've got russia. you've got -- all of these other issues, and you get republicans who have actually been the ones that have likely been painted in the corner of being insurrectionists, weirdos, and freaks. and that's why that speech yesterday, while america was wa

joe biden in the most recent emerson poll. here who has an opening a third party independent candidate can tip the ballot and do the damage that was done to jimmy carter or george herbert walker bushose respective elections where you have somebody come in. doesn't get many electoral votes if any but we get a president elected with less than 45% of the vote. >> bret: you are saying if it's former president trump against president biden, that someone else, like throwing it out there, joe manchin, someone else gets in the race. >> or a business person. >> bret: or a business person. >> it's tempting for them. >> bret: do you think that's possible, celinda. >> it's very hard given the two-party system to get nominated unless you have a lot of money. ross perot was the best example, i think, and i worked in the clinton campaign. >> bret: that was like 19%. >> right. he had significant vote. but, in the end, bill clinton won. >> but with 44%. >> it was a governing majority. and most of the ross perot voters had bill clinton as their second choice. >> bret: do you think there will be a real battle for the republican primary? >> no, i'm not an expert on republican primaries. >> bret: it's

joe biden? >> well, it depends on what's in there. but if we look at recent past cases, there were three that are instructive. one is against former attorney general alberto gonzalez in the bushnistration, and he was investigated for misman documents. he fully cooperated, he didn't disseminate them, didn't destroy them, ultimately given a finding of no criminal liability. former army general petraeus took documents that were classified, gave them to his biographer, and was prosecuted, had to plead guilty to crimmina mishandling because of the dissemination. similarly, former national security adviser sandy berger took documents, when they asked about them he altered them. he, too, had to plead guilty. so legally speaking, what is distinguishing in all of these cases is, once they were revealed -- and there's no explanation other than error for both trump and, i think, biden's initial mishandling. once identified what do they do? and then what did the prosecutor find was done with those documents? i think in the biden case, it will turn out that he was just sloppy and that he was -- >> is that a defense when it comes to top secret, classified information? >> well -- >> like, w

bush, every president had accidentally taken documents that were deemed classified. yet they were never raided. yet they never were treated with a special counsel like donald trump was. now we find out joe biden did the exact same thing that every president has done. so there's a problem here with the national archives in how documents leave the presidency and follow the ex-president. this is the concern. >> martha: yeah, i don't know if it's true with regard to president obama and president bush. but clearly we have evidence that it's true with president trump and vice president biden. >> our research shows that every president has accidentally taken documents even hillary clinton -- >> and a lot of that was destroyed, which people had a big problem with. thanks very much, chairman comer. good to have you with us today. let's bring in karl rove, former deputy chief of staff to president george w. bush and fox news contributor. and mark penn, former clinton adviser and chairman and ce of of stagwell incorporated. great to have you with us today. karl, can you address that with regard to whether or not president bush took classified documents to the residence? >> i'm not aware of that. i

where joe biden's document s were found or where the government's documents were found so once you get a special counsel like this , we saw it with clinton, we saw it with the investigation into bushions we've had. it's like pulling on a string and all kinds of things come up and i think this is an open very very open question as to what we'll discover. stuart: and there will be leaks, i should say, and there will be headlines galore for months to come in all probability. >> let's hope there are. stuart: squad member jayapal getting called out for hypocrisy over the classified documents. todd who is calling her out? todd: brace yourself, stu. it's cnn if you can believe it. listen to this. stuart: good lord. >> you tweeted donald trump stole classified documents. he put not only our national security at risk but the security and safety of our allies around the world. he must be held accountable to the full extent of the law. isn't it possible that president biden is putting our national security at risk also? >> these documents so for , what we know, is that they were kept in a locked place that was a very small number and, you know, i don't know how important these are, but the s

no one is keeping track of who went in and out of joe biden's home in delaware or barack obama's home in chicago, george w. bush'sump's properties, mar-a-lago, bedminster, dural and so on. republicans are trying to make this an issue. it has been tradition for decades for white houses to release visitor logs. that's a bipartisan tradition. democrat asks republicans alike, and like so many bipartisan traditions came to an end under donald trump's white house. this visitor log argument is the latest red herring that republicans are trying to toss out there in order to attack president biden over this mishandling of classified documents, and more than that, trying to undermine the faith in the investigation. suggesting, again, whether it's the secret service, the department of justice, the attorney general merrick garland are playing favorites here when that of course is not the case, when we saw the special counsel appointed last week. >>> let's get more context around this with pulitzer prize winning columnist at "the washington post," eugene robinson and former u.s. senator, now an nbc news and msnbc political an

bush, they have all raised the debt ceiling. it is what happens every year. host: we will get to calls here. what do you think about senator joewest virginia, democratic senator, meeting with speaker mccarthy and encouraging him to sit down with president biden, and calling it a mistake for democrats to not want to talk? guest: look, every one of us has a different way of approaching this. senator manchin has a way of looking at the debt ceiling and has every right to look for some sort of compromise or idea. i don't happen to agree with him. if someone comes up with an idea that makes this go smoothly, if someone feels better after a series of conversations, that is what we do here. we discuss everything, we decide where there is leverage and where there is an. but today that this is something we are going to debate between now and june, when it actually becomes an issue we have to deal with -- and as you know congress will probably wait until the last minute -- to have this be our topic of conversation every day, it is just politics. host: dean in jesup, georgia. republican. good morning to you. caller: morning. host: go ahe

joe biden didn't know anything about it? he knew about it. he just didn't care. if you went to obama's place of residence you would find some documents. if you went to bush's residence, you would find some documents. we're very sloppy in the way that we handle documents. host: is that the core problem at the bottom of the, how we handle classified documents? caller: that's why the democrats weaponized the archives in the first place, because they knew that trump would have documents they could point at. host: you talked about the possibility of all presidents doing so. is the classification the real problem? caller: i think that the real problem is that we are sloppy. if we're going to be very, handle these documents in a special manner, we should handle them in a special manner. but we are sloppy. from the archives department on up, we are sloppy in how we are handling these documents, and what we should have is some kind of an olly olly oxen free, and everybody who has documents please turn them in to the archives department. if we really cared. but actually, we don't care about these documents. we just care who's holding them so that we can prosecute th

joe has the morning off but willie and i are here in new york, and we have with us, the former aid to the george w. bush white house and state department, elise jordan, an msnbc political analyst. former white house communications director under president obama, jennifer palmeri, jen is the cohost of show time's "the circus" and the host of "way too early," white house bureau chief at "politico," jonathan lemire, and with us today, we're going to put him to work, msnbc legal analyst, danny cevallos. good to have you all with us this morning. we are learning new details, several new details this morning about the failed republican candidate for the new mexico state house who was arrested after allegedly orchestrating a series of shootings at the homes of democratic officials. solomon pena, a staunch supporter of former president donald trump and backer of false claims of election fraud was denied bail yesterday during his first court hearing in albuquerque on charges he master minded four shootings and took part in at least one, after he lost his state house race last november. no one was hurt in the sho

bush, they have all raised the debt ceiling. it is what happens every year. >> host: will get to culture. what do you think about your college in the senate, senator joe manchin of west virginia, democratic senator, meeting with speaker mccarthy and encourage him to sitsi down with president biden and calling it a mistake for democrats do not want to talk? >> guest: look, everyone of us has a different way of approaching this andry certainly we know senator joe manchin has his own way of looking at things like the debt ceiling and the deficit and as of the right to look to support some sort of compromise or some sort of idea. .. ne comes up with an idea that makes this go smoothly, if someone feels better after a series of conversations, that is what we do here. we discuss everything, we decide where there is leverage and where there is an. but today to say this is something we're going to debate after june the comes an issue that we have to deal with and as you know congress will probably wait until the last minute when we have to deal with this. to have this be our topic of day isation every single just politics. >> georgia, republican said good mor